Engine only runs with starter fluid

[siteunseen]

Is that something you chose to do or you have to do?  To me that seems like there is a problem.  

Could your choke pull handle mount be loose on the console?  There's a better mounting plate on ebay that'll get it off the console and way stronger, more pulling power.

I can't figure out how to drop the nozzles then pull the choke cable?  Seems like the other way around would work better? 

Good luck, I'm curious for the fix. 8^)

[hatepotholez]

I have to do it, seems like the cable doesn't pull it enough. the cable isn't correctly adjusted and it's not mounted on the center console, it's just dangling in the interior.


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[Mark Maras]

 The kit to move the choke lever mounting point from the underside (now broken) of the console to the trans tunnel will fix the floppiness in your lever. Lube everything including the cables and nozzles. With the choke cables disconnected, grab the end of the linkage the cable connects to and move it back and forth, mimicking the action of the choke cables, The nozzles should lower and raise smoothly with no hesitation or difficulty. Let us know what you find.

[hatepotholez]

Ok, made some good progress. I disconnected the choke cable completely from the carbs. The cable even when the choke handle was down was slightly pulling on the choke actuators but not by much.

I started the car and it ran right away. I then proceeded to set the idle, locked in the bottom lock nuts all the way in and rotated 1 turn and then about 1/8th, adjusted the air balance screws and throttle plate screws and then high idle all per the service manual. I was able to get the idle set at 700. The car ran for atleast 15 minutes, I then shut off the vehicle and tried to restart it but no luck. I pulled the plugs and they were all black but not wet. I have atleast 18 spark plugs all black, I will clean them up and reinstall. 

 

[Mark Maras]

 Post #160 you mentioned a Ztherapy kit that came with M43 and M39 needles. I believe those are needles for a four cyl. (1600?) engine. Are you using either one of those?

[hatepotholez]

4 hours ago, Mark Maras said:

 Post #160 you mentioned a Ztherapy kit that came with M43 and M39 needles. I believe those are needles for a four cyl. (1600?) engine. Are you using either one of those?

The kit is actually from zcardepot. The needles were much shorter compared to the needles that came off the carbs.

[siteunseen]

If his needles are shorter wouldn't that mean the nozzles should be higher than the 2.5 turns we normally do or lower?

[Mark Maras]

 Which needles and nozzles are you using?

[hatepotholez]

 Which needles and nozzles are you using?

I don't remember which needles I installed, I didn't swap the nozzle so I'm assuming it's stock.


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[Mark Maras]

 You might want to pop the top off a carb. and double check. I'm not an expert on the different needles (i always ran oem needles) but I saw a post on Zcardriver where someone got the M39 and M43's in a kit, tried them and couldn't get the engine running well until he changed them to needles that were designed for a six cylinder engine.

[hatepotholez]

7 hours ago, Mark Maras said:

 You might want to pop the top off a carb. and double check. I'm not an expert on the different needles (i always ran oem needles) but I saw a post on Zcardriver where someone got the M39 and M43's in a kit, tried them and couldn't get the engine running well until he changed them to needles that were designed for a six cylinder engine.

That's a good idea, I also might just buy the original N54 needles to eliminate that needle issue.

[hatepotholez]

Solved the issue with running rich, would be nice if the needles were the correct one! 

Edited August 15, 2017 by hatepotholez
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