October 26, 20159 yr comment_479864 IMO The easiest way to set the needle height is; Turn the mixture screws all the way up, keeping track of the number of turns. Remove the piston, loosen the needle set screw, pull the needle out about an 1/8", tighten the set screw just until the needle won't fall out. Install the piston & chamber, using a pencil or other soft item push the piston down using the oil access hole on top. The piston should move down about 1/8". This will bottom out the needle against the nozzle, which is the proper height. Remove the piston tighten the needle & reassemble. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/52647-engine-only-runs-with-starter-fluid/?&page=3#findComment-479864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 26, 20159 yr comment_479896 I follow the same basic procedure as Mark. I just use a straight edge across the needle shoulder and piston bottom to get the needles flush. Sometimes I'll use the edge of a Vernier caliper if I want to lean out the idle a bit by having the Needle shoulder protrude by about .020" from the Piston bottom. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/52647-engine-only-runs-with-starter-fluid/?&page=3#findComment-479896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 27, 20159 yr Author comment_479906 Thanks guys, this info has been great!! Now i'm excited to rebuild the carbs! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/52647-engine-only-runs-with-starter-fluid/?&page=3#findComment-479906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 27, 20159 yr comment_479927 One tip, make 2 piles. One for the front carb, the second for the back carb. Make sure to keep those parts separate. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/52647-engine-only-runs-with-starter-fluid/?&page=3#findComment-479927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 27, 20159 yr comment_479932 a rebuild kit from ztherapy is cheap and well worth it. the floats are the most critical initial adjustment, as they set the fuel level at the nozzles. the float needle valves can be finicky so replacement is the ticket - they come w/the kit. you'll be taking the float chamber tops off a bunch of times to get them adjusted - stick the float chamber gaskets to the lids w/some gasket cement so they don't pringle and become impossible to align Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/52647-engine-only-runs-with-starter-fluid/?&page=3#findComment-479932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 27, 20159 yr comment_479939 When you order the kits, assuming they're coming from ZTherapy, get the "SUs only" DVD too. The knowledge shared in this DVD will take any guess work out of the rebuild. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/52647-engine-only-runs-with-starter-fluid/?&page=3#findComment-479939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 27, 20159 yr comment_479941 Here's my approach on adjusting the floats. http://jarvas240z.blogspot.com/2013/06/carb-float-levels-sightglass.html Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/52647-engine-only-runs-with-starter-fluid/?&page=3#findComment-479941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 27, 20159 yr comment_479949 When you order the kits, assuming they're coming from ZTherapy, get the "SUs only" DVD too. The knowledge shared in this DVD will take any guess work out of the rebuild. Absolutely! The Just SUs DVD came with my rebuild kits, $180 I believe. Well worth it, new nozzles and hoses are hard to find. The DVD talks about Grose Valves with a ball instead of the pins but they no longer make those so you get the valves with pins. It's kind of funny hearing him talk about how much better the Grose Valves are compared to the pins. No big deal though. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/52647-engine-only-runs-with-starter-fluid/?&page=3#findComment-479949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 27, 20159 yr comment_479951 Here's my approach on adjusting the floats. http://jarvas240z.blogspot.com/2013/06/carb-float-levels-sightglass.html Thanks for that Dave. I have my carbs and intake screwed to the wall above my work bench. I am going to set the levels the best I can before putting them on the car. I need all the information I can get. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/52647-engine-only-runs-with-starter-fluid/?&page=3#findComment-479951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 29, 20159 yr Author comment_480108 Thanks everyone for the advice. I ordered a japanese kit from zcardepot. I should have ordered the dvd from Ztherapy but was in a rush. I do have a few questions. What is the procedure to temove each carb from the thottle, how do I separate the float bowl from the main carb body and how do I adjust the linkages?Thanks! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/52647-engine-only-runs-with-starter-fluid/?&page=3#findComment-480108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 30, 20159 yr comment_480136 There's tons of stuff on youtube.com about SUs. They really are simple. Take the 8 nuts off the intake studs, 4 per carb, and the whole assembly will slide right off. The only connections are the fuel lines and the vacuum advance tube on the front carb. Take a bunch of pictures as you disassemble them. Two separate piles, they are the same but opposite like looking in a mirror. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/52647-engine-only-runs-with-starter-fluid/?&page=3#findComment-480136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 30, 20159 yr comment_480155 IMO It's not necessary to separate the float bowl from the body unless it's leaking fuel from the connection. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/52647-engine-only-runs-with-starter-fluid/?&page=3#findComment-480155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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