November 8, 20213 yr Author comment_631207 @DC871F I have a 50 gallon Ingersol rand outside my shop. So cold air in the winter, not so much in the summer. It comes through the wall and goes into about three loops of 3/4" copper line. Then it hits a pressure regulator and a water separator. The water trap has a drain plumbed through the wall that I can blow down Then it travels across the shop about 30' and hits my three stage filter dryer. It's a nice unit with desiccant beads but it has gotten kind of pricey in the last few years. I only use this air source for painting and it stays shut off otherwise. When the beads turn pink, I bake them in the oven on about 200F until they're dark blue again At some point I might rework the loop to be up near the ceiling and horizontal so the loops don't hold water that way. I could also do like you did and use a condenser as a cooler. Maybe, in my spare time 😉 Hope this helps Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55369-1971-hls30-14938-lily-build/?&page=37#findComment-631207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 9, 20213 yr comment_631210 9 hours ago, DC871F said: Can you share a pic or two of your paint setup? Shop air, dryers, etc? I rigged up a transmission cooler on the fan of my compressor, it brings 300* air down to about 70* before entering tank. I want to believe that it reduces the amount of condensation in the tank, although I still drain some out of it. Here's a good read on cooling the air with a 90s Honda condenser. Post #5.  Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55369-1971-hls30-14938-lily-build/?&page=37#findComment-631210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 9, 20213 yr comment_631217 2 hours ago, Patcon said: @DC871F I have a 50 gallon Ingersol rand outside my shop. So cold air in the winter, not so much in the summer. It comes through the wall and goes into about three loops of 3/4" copper line. Then it hits a pressure regulator and a water separator. The water trap has a drain plumbed through the wall that I can blow down Then it travels across the shop about 30' and hits my three stage filter dryer. It's a nice unit with desiccant beads but it has gotten kind of pricey in the last few years. I only use this air source for painting and it stays shut off otherwise. When the beads turn pink, I bake them in the oven on about 200F until they're dark blue again At some point I might rework the loop to be up near the ceiling and horizontal so the loops don't hold water that way. I could also do like you did and use a condenser as a cooler. Maybe, in my spare time 😉 Hope this helps Thanks. Your setup is what I have been eye balling. Do you ever get any moisture at all out of the dryer? They seem to work really well from all I have read and seen on youtube. I think the way you did it is better or at least the same from a refrigerated dryer, but I'm no expert. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55369-1971-hls30-14938-lily-build/?&page=37#findComment-631217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 9, 20213 yr comment_631218 1 hour ago, siteunseen said: Here's a good read on cooling the air with a 90s Honda condenser. Post #5. Â I like the fan setup, thats probably 3 or 4 times the airflow I'm getting from the stock compressor fan. I do get water in the tank, but it never makes it to my air tools. When I start painting I'll probably redo my system to incorporate a higher volume fan. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55369-1971-hls30-14938-lily-build/?&page=37#findComment-631218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 9, 20213 yr Author comment_631219 In the time I've had it, I've never had spitting or moisture when I'm painting. Even in our really humid summers Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55369-1971-hls30-14938-lily-build/?&page=37#findComment-631219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 10, 20213 yr Author comment_631281 Got my crew working this morning, then sort of took a half day off I shot some epoxy over the bare metal areas and then stacked some high build until the gun started acting up Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55369-1971-hls30-14938-lily-build/?&page=37#findComment-631281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 10, 20213 yr comment_631335 22 hours ago, Patcon said: I shot some epoxy over the bare metal areas and then stacked some high build until the gun started acting up haha, and thus the thread on a new gun acquisition 😋 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55369-1971-hls30-14938-lily-build/?&page=37#findComment-631335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 11, 20213 yr Author comment_631348 2 hours ago, grannyknot said: haha, and thus the thread on a new gun acquisition 😋 Yes, basically 😉 The gun I'm using has been used for all sorts of stuff. Its older and can be difficult to clean. I thought I might get some better atomization and less overspray with a better gun. Since overspray is really just money floating down wind. I spent about $800 on paint last week. That was some basecoat, clear, some catalyst for a primer and a quart of epoxy primer. I'm using Nason paints, so a budget line of paints. Not top shelf. I already had sealer and high build primer. Things are drastically more expensive this year! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55369-1971-hls30-14938-lily-build/?&page=37#findComment-631348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 20, 20213 yr Author comment_631942 So Ive roughed out the rear end of the car I hope to spray some high build on it tomorrow Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55369-1971-hls30-14938-lily-build/?&page=37#findComment-631942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 21, 20213 yr Author comment_632002 I got 4 coats of high build layed down. It's always amazing how bad it looks after you shoot a mono color shiny coat on it. All of a sudden there's flaws everywhere! I will use a little spot glaze on the bigger flaws, and then I will start guide coating. It will probably need another round of high build after blocking it down. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55369-1971-hls30-14938-lily-build/?&page=37#findComment-632002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 21, 20213 yr comment_632004 But at least you're at the point of shooting primer. Congrats. Edited November 21, 20213 yr by DC871F Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55369-1971-hls30-14938-lily-build/?&page=37#findComment-632004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 26, 20213 yr Author comment_632248 So I am about to double check the tail light panel fitment but I keep breaking the retaining clips. So I had to buy some. They look really good but they're not cheap! You can see where the old one is cracked on top I had one fail the other day and half of it went zinging across the shop. I also started filling in the flaws on the rear the other day. It's gonna need some more high build... Â Edited November 26, 20213 yr by Patcon Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55369-1971-hls30-14938-lily-build/?&page=37#findComment-632248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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