Posted May 3, 20168 yr comment_494137 Been working on getting the car going for a few weeks now. Was ready to fire it up last week, tried to jump it. But the battery was obviously far too gone to even jump. I didn't realize a battery could be too dead to jump, but apparently it can. New battery, new starter, new cap and rotor. Still nothng. Checked for fuel pump noise by unplugging starter terminal. Pump was running. Fuel had gotten to the filter up front (I cracked open the clamp). Checked for spark at the coil and at the plug wires with a multimeter and then a timing light. Have spark. Found TDC. Here was the problem: The Chilton's manual shows the #1 plug terminal on the rotor as being the one under the clip, which is one too far down. That is why I could not get the rotor to point at #1 when at TDC. As seen in the image below: (firing order is correct, but the distributor terminals look off to what they actually should be) After researching online, it appears that the #1 plug terminal should be the one just above or at the clip, front most in the car. Anyone else noticed this in the manual? It threw me off for awhile. Once I swapped the wires one position "up", it fired right up! Pretty smooth, but does still need some tuning and work: Lots of smoke coming from the exhaust manifold. I think I missed a bolt or two. Also it appears to have no brakes. Fluid is full, booster is connected. No pressure on the pedal though. Auto trans is slow to engage also, but probably just a fluid or adjustment issue. It shifted fine before. The valve train seems kind of noisy though, but it seems like these cars sound like that normally? Anyways, I have time before I drive it, but it way a HUGE milestone for me, as I've never installed an engine or done work of this extent before. It was also 3+ years ago since the car ran. It made me happy for a minute. At least I know the engine runs... Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55387-it-lives/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 3, 20168 yr comment_494146 chiltons is a last resort for me. i have an old dodge power wagon. the chilton manual showed the distributor rotation one way when it was actually the other. it cost me quite a bit of time and money to learn that lesson. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55387-it-lives/#findComment-494146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 3, 20168 yr comment_494147 x Edited May 3, 20168 yr by sweatybetty double post Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55387-it-lives/#findComment-494147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 3, 20168 yr comment_494156 Chilton's and Haynes are not very useful I've learned too. Thank Goodness for the internet! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55387-it-lives/#findComment-494156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 3, 20168 yr comment_494183 19 hours ago, sweatybetty said: chiltons is a last resort for me. i have an old dodge power wagon. the chilton manual showed the distributor rotation one way when it was actually the other. it cost me quite a bit of time and money to learn that lesson. A power wagon, VERY cool. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55387-it-lives/#findComment-494183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 3, 20168 yr comment_494185 22 minutes ago, grannyknot said: A power wagon, VERY cool. thank you. this is getting a resto after i get done with the z car Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55387-it-lives/#findComment-494185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 4, 20168 yr comment_494201 " after i get done with the z car " Huh? That doesn't make any sense at all... Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55387-it-lives/#findComment-494201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 4, 20168 yr comment_494202 what do you mean? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55387-it-lives/#findComment-494202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 4, 20168 yr Author comment_494204 2 hours ago, Captain Obvious said: " after i get done with the z car " Huh? That doesn't make any sense at all... 32 minutes ago, sweatybetty said: what do you mean? Haha I think he was sarcastically stating that you're never really done with a z car... or maybe not so sarcastically! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55387-it-lives/#findComment-494204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 4, 20168 yr comment_494214 my neighbor (old guy constantly puttering in his yard) is always asking when i'm gonna be done working on my car (and yes, there's a sense of sarcasm in his voice). he always shakes his head when i reply "never, i hope!" fact is, if i wanted a car that i was "done with" i'd buy a camry. other fact is, when i do something on the car, it STAYS done - unlike his yard work ;} Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55387-it-lives/#findComment-494214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 4, 20168 yr comment_494216 There's a big difference between mostly done and all done. Mostly done is slightly un-done. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55387-it-lives/#findComment-494216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 4, 20168 yr comment_494219 10 hours ago, ramsesosirus said: Haha I think he was sarcastically stating that you're never really done with a z car... or maybe not so sarcastically! ok. im a little slow sometimes Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55387-it-lives/#findComment-494219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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