1969 Fairlady Z for Sale

[Zed Head]

Thanks.  Reading back through the posts it looks like it would have value to a true Z car aficionado due to its uniqueness.  I don't think that the OP is realizing that the people here have the most expertise in the area of anyone else he could find.  He's stuck on what the documents show, but doesn't understand the idiosyncrasies of the early Datsun manufacturing.  It's most valuable to the people who know these things, so no use arguing about it.  Best to stick head up under dash and get more data.  Actually, with today's technology you just have to stick a camera phone up there.

[siteunseen]

45 minutes ago, Zed Head said:

 Best to stick head up under dash and get more data.  Actually, with today's technology you just have to stick a camera phone up there.

I'd like to know more about my car.  Where should I take a photo of the underside of the dash?

Thanks for any info.

[Zed Head]

I was talking about 26th-Z's #15 post.  I don't know that we'd learn much on our cars doing that.

[240znz]

3 hours ago, Zed Head said:

How common is it in Europe?  If location on the globe is that important, seems like there'd be a big push to import Fairlady Z's to the States.

In short - what's it worth, with the cut fender wells?  I'm trying to figure out if this is something special, or just an old Datsun.  Is it the "1973 240Z" of Europe?  Nice but nothing special.  Is it rare everywhere or just rare in the States?

Not very many I'd guess as the S30 was a Japanese Domestic market only model with the L6 2000 engine. Doubt many made it to mainland Europe at all as all S30's were RHD. I recall seeing one in NZ a few years ago and probably imported here in the 80's when our importing laws changed. I have not seen one for ages, even HS30's are very uncommon and now very sort after. A unmolested HS30 is somewhere between NZ$25,000 and NZ$40,000 but they do come up.

[26th-Z]

I don't remember where the wiring harness tag is underneath the dash.  I think you are going to have to contort to find it.  But this action has rewards!  For your outstanding diligence in successfully finding the tag or any date marked inscription on your car ( and there are plenty of them ) you earn points acquiring or keeping the sacred Datsun secret handshake.

I briefly cruised the archives for discussions we have had in the past about S30 models showing up in North America.  Estimates put the number around 30.  I know at least one serious collector who has an S30 in his stable along with his gaggle of Vintage Zs and low VINs.  The S30 is a rare commodity in North America.  Similarly, Kats' HLS30 is quite rare in Japan.

[70 Fairlady Z]

There is mystery here as I have spoken with the original owner Don Davis who purchased the car new late 1969 and had the oil changed prior to Thanksgiving. Military service members back then bank loans were not granted, so Ron had a friend purchase the car from the dealer. The paperwork that was in the thread with Showa 45 dates is the transfer from the friend to Ron who owned the car for 30 years. Mr. K himself wrote the '69 year style' on the paperwork at ZCON York, PA in 1997. The second owner owned the car for 17 years. Regardless, this is an early production Fairlady Z. Many missed out on this opportunity with all the stone throwing when it was offered for sale last year. The Fairlady Z will remain titled as a 1969 when I register her.

Edited May 5, 2017 by RHDNISSANDATSUNDUDE

[70 Fairlady Z]

On ‎6‎/‎3‎/‎2016 at 6:25 PM, 26th-Z said:

I don't remember where the wiring harness tag is underneath the dash.  I think you are going to have to contort to find it.  But this action has rewards!  For your outstanding diligence in successfully finding the tag or any date marked inscription on your car ( and there are plenty of them ) you earn points acquiring or keeping the sacred Datsun secret handshake.

I briefly cruised the archives for discussions we have had in the past about S30 models showing up in North America.  Estimates put the number around 30.  I know at least one serious collector who has an S30 in his stable along with his gaggle of Vintage Zs and low VINs.  The S30 is a rare commodity in North America.  Similarly, Kats' HLS30 is quite rare in Japan.

Picture is from?

[240260280]

FYI: Kat's Date Stamp Thread:

http://www.classiczcars.com/topic/15396-discover-various-dateuse-cross-reference-method/

 

MikeB's finding of door latch components may be an easy spot to check first.

Also some Nikki fuel pumps have date codes on top.

[70 Fairlady Z]

Thanks!

[HS30-H]

1 hour ago, RHDNISSANDATSUNDUDE said:

There is mystery here as I have spoken with the original owner Ron Davis who purchased the car new late 1969 and had the oil changed prior to Thanksgiving. Military service members back then bank loans were not granted, so Ron had a friend purchase the car from the dealer. The paperwork that was in the thread with Showa 45 dates is the transfer from the friend to Ron who owned the car for 30 years. Mr. K himself wrote the '69 year style' on the paperwork at ZCON York, PA in 1997. The second owner owned the car for 17 years. Regardless, this is an early production Fairlady Z. Many missed out on this opportunity with all the stone throwing when it was offered for sale last year. The Fairlady Z will remain titled as a 1969 when I register her.

There's no "mystery" here, unless we include the mystery as to why certain people won't listen to established fact and common sense.

The car in question was built after one of my own cars, which was built in mid/late 1970. Nissan Shatai's own records - quoted by me in one of the previous posts on this thread - tell us what S30-prefixed chassis numbers were built on 1969 and 1970. This is a 1970 build-dated car and a mid to late 1970 build date at that.

"Stone throwing"? Get a grip.

 

[70 Fairlady Z]

No disagreement that the chassis number is a 1970! I am good with that and am looking forward to the journey!

[70 Fairlady Z]

On 6/3/2016 at 6:25 PM, 26th-Z said:

I don't remember where the wiring harness tag is underneath the dash.  I think you are going to have to contort to find it.  But this action has rewards!  For your outstanding diligence in successfully finding the tag or any date marked inscription on your car ( and there are plenty of them ) you earn points acquiring or keeping the sacred Datsun secret handshake.

I briefly cruised the archives for discussions we have had in the past about S30 models showing up in North America.  Estimates put the number around 30.  I know at least one serious collector who has an S30 in his stable along with his gaggle of Vintage Zs and low VINs.  The S30 is a rare commodity in North America.  Similarly, Kats' HLS30 is quite rare in Japan.

What is this?