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[Mike]

The war isn't all about oil. People who think that are fooling themselves. There are other places to get oil.

[Bambikiller240]

Originally posted by Mike

The war isn't all about oil. People who think that are fooling themselves. There are other places to get oil.

!!!

But in Iraq, the US will CONTROL the oil for quite some time. Why do you think Bush doesn't want the UN involved in running the country? Big difference.

[Mike]

Originally posted by BambiKiller240

Why do you think Bush doesn't want the UN involved in running the country?

Where do you get that idea? Bush asked the UN to be part of the war. They declined.

Oil might be a part of the deal, but, it's not the ONLY reason. Read my sentence more carefully.

[MikeW]

Originally posted by BambiKiller240

I still maintain that Bush's oil buddies will benefit greatly from the newly available (stable?) oil supplies from Iraq.

I keep seeing this talk about it being just about oil. Do you really think oil companies want more oil? As recent gas prices have shown the oil companies simply charge more for gas when the oil costs them more. They probably make a bigger profit when oil is expensive. If the US really cared about the supply and cost of oil why have we had an embargo on Iraqi oil for the last 12 years? It's true that we wouldn't want a madman like Hussein controlling a majority of the world reserves (which would have happened in 1991 had he taken control of Saudi Arabia after invading Kuwait) because he could cut us off completely. That would be bad for US consumers, not oil companies. Oil companies will do what it takes to get oil. However, the US currently gets more oil from Canada than even Saudi Arabia. We also get a lot of oil from Mexico and Venezuela. Bush's Texas oil buddies are actually hurt by cheaper imported oil since in makes Texas oil less desirable.

It's not just about oil.

[Bambikiller240]

Originally posted by Mike

Where do you get that idea? Bush asked the UN to be part of the war. They declined.

Oil might be a part of the deal, but, it's not the ONLY reason. Read my sentence more carefully.

I see your post. "part of"

I refer to my earlier post:

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Originally posted by MDyer

Bambi, Rebuilding is construction work, not oil. I contend that the German-French-Russian position to NOT go to war, was about oil.

It's too nice of a day to rant.

and I replied to MDyer:

The rebuilding will pump LARGE sums of money into certain companies and countries economies, likey at taxpayer expense to one degree or another.

Interesting that one of the first contracts to be let was to Haliburton Co. (One of Cheney's favorites) I suspect other large companies like Bechtel will be next at the trough, to feed on the Money Pie served up by Chef's Bush and Blair. I still maintain that Bush's oil buddies will benefit greatly from the newly available (stable?) oil supplies from Iraq.

OIL and MONEY it's all tied together.

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Yes, he did want the UN in the war. No arguement there,(if there had to be a war, I did too)

Since then he (Bush) has stated pubicly that he'd prefer that the UN not be involved in the "interim" governing of the country. He and Blair had a chat about that in Ireland a few days ago.

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MikeW:

They want STABLE supply controlled by a "friendly" government who will not raise prices, lower supply or do anything to negitively impact the bottom line. My belief is that the oil will be cheaper, and less will be purchased from those other sources that you mentioned which are not CONTROLLED by the "friends" of the US oil industry.

They don't care to develop the oil in the US as it costs too much ,what with all of the enviromental hoops to be jumped through. In many areas of the US they CAN'T develop the known reserves due to restrictions pushed through during the rein of previous administrations

We've already talked about how the price leaps before the higher cost supplies even reach our shores. The oil companies charge what they can get away with, whether supply prices have risen or not.

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I'm going back into my hut. I'd prefer to not get involved with a wizz'n contest (again) about who's opinion is right. We can disagree, OK. can't we?

[Mike]

Originally posted by BambiKiller240

I'm going back into my hut. I'd prefer to not get involved with a wizz'n contest (again) about who's opinion is right. We can disagree, OK. can't we?

Bingo... :cheeky: We all have differences of opinion. I like to see discussions where people present an opinion and provide possible solutions.

[MDyer]

You imply that only the US Gov't has agendas...???

[1 Bravo 6]

As far as rebuilding is concerned, all we are (supposedly) going to offer is assistance with agriculture.

Yes, little Johnny, we believe you.

Rick.

[1 Bravo 6]

:classic: :classic: :classic:

Yes Carl,

As I said before, we CAN agree to disagree. I agree.

Now don't you go turning ostrich on us mate.

DON"T use your shed as a sandpit to stick your head into.

I for one enjoy reading your comments. All too often they mirror my own thoughts but you have more of a knack at using words than I do.

Anyone else AGREE or DISAGREE ????????

Rick.

[Caen Fred]

You imply that only the US Gov't has agendas...???

Sorry, I don't get it? (but what do I get, anyway:classic: )

Sharpen the picture for your poor French budy here, thank's.

Go Bengals, hooday...

[MDyer]

You stated:

"Do they like what Bush did recently, no!

do they feel that going there for protecting your country from a potential threat was a plot? yes! "

that's what I'm referring to as an agenda.

This is not an attack on you personally.:classic:

Seriously though, an overwhelming majority of Americans feel that the French people hate us/our gov't. Is that perception correct? If so, why?

Where/when did you live in Cincy? I work in Cincy.

[Caen Fred]

I lived in Montgomery, I had one hell of a time there, used to go to the Art Academy, where I passed a Bachelor in Commercial Arts.

My dad lived there also, he worked for CFMI a joint venture SNECMA/GE, they built the most successful jet engine as today the mighty CMF56 and up… I did a few contract for GE at that time, and was amazed by your over specialisation, maybe because you are so many… that give jobs to more peoples. It took 10 American where they used one French, but again it make sense and we have too many unemployed here in France, so if I had to chose a piece of the cake for everybody!!!

Humm, as for the love/hate thing, just when the street was calming down, and swallow the (Mass destruction thing), it raise again with Bush’s warning to Syria… Give us the whole list at once… :ermm: