dmorales-bello Posted July 2, 2016 Share #1 Posted July 2, 2016 I have searched for improved alternatives to the OEM starter on the forum and there seems to be no information on the subject. California Datsun advertises a starter: " LIGHT WEIGHT AND HELPS START YOUR ENGINE FASTER. NO MORE SLOW CRANK ON COLD DAYS WHERE IT ALMOST KILLS YOUR BATTERY, THIS IS YOUR ANSWER! NO CORE REQUIRED. NO MODIFICATIONS NEEDED THIS IS A DIRECT BOLT ON. PLEASE SEE OUR OTHER AUCTIONS FOR THE STARTERRELAY KIT THAT ADDS TRUE 12 VOLTS TO EXTEND YOUR STARTER LIFE! " It certainly looks much nicer than stock but is there any functional advantage over OEM? The starter relay they mention is an extra $15. Opinions from more experienced members would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteunseen Posted July 2, 2016 Share #2 Posted July 2, 2016 "How to modify" book shows a lightweight gear reduction starter. I think I have one that came with some Z parts I bought. I'll see if I can find and get some info for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteunseen Posted July 2, 2016 Share #3 Posted July 2, 2016 My 12 volt battery connects straight to the starter? California datsun does a lot of smoke and mirror tricks in their advertising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroDat Posted July 2, 2016 Share #4 Posted July 2, 2016 I thought most people go for the 280ZX units. They are like siteunseen just mentioned, gear reduction units. Try rockauto and you can buy a unit for $60. Look up 82 or 83 280ZX L6 n/a engine. Chas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteunseen Posted July 2, 2016 Share #5 Posted July 2, 2016 I can was thinking the same Chas, wasn't 100 percent though. Check zcardepot too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed Head Posted July 2, 2016 Share #6 Posted July 2, 2016 Like site says, other companies use the Nissan gear reduction starter as a high-performance unit, by installing a different nose on it to fit other engines. That's just a shined up and painted gear reduction starter from CD. Probably from Rockauto. Browse his other products and you'll see that most of them are just inexpensive parts with slight modifications, and a huge price increase. Distributors with a mounting block added - 3 times Rockauto cost. https://www.californiadatsun.com/distributors-and-parts/datsun-240z-280z-e12-80-rebuilt-electronic-distributor.html?highlight=WyJkaXN0cmlidXRvciJd The factory gear reduction starters work well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed Head Posted July 2, 2016 Share #7 Posted July 2, 2016 Here's the two starters you're looking at. $75 for a polish. https://www.californiadatsun.com/starters/datsun-z-240z-280zx-510-heavy-duty-reduction-starter.html?highlight=WyJzdGFydGVyIl0= https://www.californiadatsun.com/starters/datsun-z-240z-280zx-510-polished-hd-reduction-starter.html?highlight=WyJzdGFydGVyIl0= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed Head Posted July 2, 2016 Share #8 Posted July 2, 2016 It's a shame that Wheeler Dealers bought in to his hype and have added life to what he does. https://www.californiadatsun.com/california-datsun-parts-blog/wheeler-dealers-240z-restoration.html?highlight=WyJzdGFydGVyIl0= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmorales-bello Posted July 2, 2016 Author Share #9 Posted July 2, 2016 (edited) Thanks for all the opinions guys. As far as I can tell, '78 280Zs (not sure about previous 280s) and ZXs already have a gear reduction starter from factory. The real question is what makes the CD starter "heavy duty" and "lightweight" compared to stock. I wrote them to ask precisely these questions but have not gotten an answer yet. I will report back as soon as I get an answer. Edited July 2, 2016 by dmoralesbello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S30Driver Posted July 2, 2016 Share #10 Posted July 2, 2016 Here is another option to source a gear reduction starter .... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000CJNV78/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2NDSEKXCIOHGL&coliid=I2014Z0ZR35CU7 I have one on my 77 car, works very well & no relay is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed Head Posted July 2, 2016 Share #11 Posted July 2, 2016 35 minutes ago, dmoralesbello said: As far as I can tell, '78 280Zs (not sure about previous 280s) and ZXs already have a gear reduction starter from factory. The real question is what makes the CD starter "heavy duty" and "lightweight" compared to stock. I wrote them to ask precisely these questions but have not gotten an answer yet. I will report back as soon as I get an answer. There is no "they" it's just one guy named Al. And he will spin you a story. His member name on this site is URGELUS or something like that. He's saying that the ZX starter is stronger and lighter than the Z starter. Which it is. But you can buy the same starter for less money elsewhere. Al sells inexpensive stuff for a high premium. The real question is how he stays in business. The answer is people who fall for his stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteunseen Posted July 2, 2016 Share #12 Posted July 2, 2016 38 minutes ago, dmoralesbello said: The real question is what makes the CD starter "heavy duty" and "lightweight" compared to stock Trickery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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