Posted August 12, 20168 yr comment_500774 For some time I felt I wanted to update the safety aspect of the 280Z by making the front fender side marker lights function additionally as turn signals along with the front turn signals on the grille. Since I didn't want to experiment with my stock lights I purchased a set of marker lights from Thailand on Ebay. The quality of the metal case was surprisingly good, much like (or perhaps better than) the Datsun part. I pulled it apart and removed the 1156 socket, widened the resulting opening to accept a GM 1157 socket which snapped into place and sealed the joint with black silicone. I did have to lift the front end of the car in order to remove the fender liner and do the electrical work which included a new 3 wire connector and an extra wire from the front turn signals to each side marker ( green/red on the left side and green/white on the right). Now the Z turn signals incorporate the front side markers and bring that aspect to today's safety standards. Datsun_280Z_Fender_Turn_Signals.mp4.crdownload Edited August 12, 20168 yr by dmoralesbello Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55952-front-side-marker-lights-as-turn-signals/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 12, 20168 yr comment_500786 Great idea! I had previously gone part way down this path, but got stuck when the only 1157 bulbs I found were too tall to fit in the socket with the lens on, especially LED bulbs. Would love to get a part number and source for the short 1157 bulbs you used. thanks. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55952-front-side-marker-lights-as-turn-signals/#findComment-500786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 12, 20168 yr comment_500789 That's a slick upgrade to your 280Z - nicely done and well documented. This plug-n-play upgrade has been available for 240Z's for a few years. I have it installed and it works great. Unfortunately, wiring design changes in the later models limit its fitting to the early cars. http://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/PROD/classic10d15/12-4654 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55952-front-side-marker-lights-as-turn-signals/#findComment-500789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 12, 20168 yr comment_500791 Stored in the "to do list" files! Thank you! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55952-front-side-marker-lights-as-turn-signals/#findComment-500791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 12, 20168 yr comment_500802 Nice. Are you planning to do the rears as well? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55952-front-side-marker-lights-as-turn-signals/#findComment-500802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 12, 20168 yr Author comment_500839 11 hours ago, zKars said: Great idea! I had previously gone part way down this path, but got stuck when the only 1157 bulbs I found were too tall to fit in the socket with the lens on, especially LED bulbs. Would love to get a part number and source for the short 1157 bulbs you used. thanks. I had the same problem initially but found these shorter bulbs at Pep Boys for $20 a pair. Nice and bright, too. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55952-front-side-marker-lights-as-turn-signals/#findComment-500839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 12, 20168 yr Author comment_500840 7 hours ago, Captain Obvious said: Nice. Are you planning to do the rears as well? I decided to do the fronts only to mimic what I see in today's vehicles. I've yet to see a contemporary car with rear fender turn signals. I think those front fender turn signals are meant mainly to warn vehicles in your blind spot that might not see your rear turn signals due to their advanced position in relation to your vehicle as to your intentions to turn or change lanes. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55952-front-side-marker-lights-as-turn-signals/#findComment-500840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 12, 20168 yr Author comment_500841 There's another useful detail I forgot to mention or photograph. In the 280Z the front marker lights have a rubber shroud attached to the rubber seal. In contrast, the rears only have the rubber seal without the shroud. The reason for this difference is that the rear lights are inside the vehicle and protected from the elements whereas the fronts are only partially protected by the plastic fender liner and are thus at least somewhat exposed to the elements. I made sure to use a weather resistant 1157 socket (plastic unit with a rubber gasket) and I used black Plastidip to give the back of the casing a couple of coats but finally decided to use the rubber seal/boot from my stock lights to give the whole thing real waterproofing. Edited August 12, 20168 yr by dmoralesbello Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55952-front-side-marker-lights-as-turn-signals/#findComment-500841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 13, 20168 yr comment_500846 I was just thinking that having the rears blink would be cool. Even it it's not "necessary". Anyway, I like it. Maybe you can get them to blink alternate to the front corners. Like some other cars do? The side markers light up when the front turns go off, and vice-versa. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55952-front-side-marker-lights-as-turn-signals/#findComment-500846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 13, 20168 yr comment_500847 Very nice trick modification. I too will add this to my list of stuff to do. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55952-front-side-marker-lights-as-turn-signals/#findComment-500847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 13, 20168 yr comment_500874 2 hours ago, Captain Obvious said: Maybe you can get them to blink alternate to the front corners. Like some other cars do? The side markers light up when the front turns go off, and vice-versa. That's exactly how the MSA adapter works for the 240's. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/55952-front-side-marker-lights-as-turn-signals/#findComment-500874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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