l28 L28 rebuild needs advice

[siteunseen]

25 minutes ago, RS02 said:

What do I do with the rocker arms? Can I do something and use it again? Or do I have to buy new ones? If this works I can really get the engine rebuild going. 

Send them to Delta Cams for a resurfacing, $50 and they'll mate up to your reground cam.

 

[RS02]

41 minutes ago, siteunseen said:

Send them to Delta Cams for a resurfacing, $50 and they'll mate up to your reground cam.

 

Wonderful. I'm looking for all the stuff I need. I will make a list after I find all I need. Another question: Is the Nissan Gasket fits bigger ports? Otherwise I'll just buy a kit from Fel Pro. Much better that way. 

[LeonV]

I don't recommend Delta. If you have used Nissan rocker and they don't have a big groove worn into them in the middle of the pad, you're ok to reuse. Much better than reground rockers for multiple reasons. This is coming from a combination of my own and others' experiences, as well as straight from Ron Iskenderian's mouth.

[RS02]

Engine parts
Big port manifold kit	60
Head Gasket kit	225
L28 swivel polish valve	225
Engine bearing kit	231
81-83 flattop pistons	390
Valve spring kit	170
Manifold hard wear kit	57
freeze plug kit	34
Valve seats 75 intake,	78+70
Lash pad kit	85
Rocker are renew	50
Timing kit	100
oil pump	93
Oil pan gasket	25
oil pump hardware	5
cam regrind	400
	2150

 

 

This is all I can come up with righ now... Is there anything I can save money/spend more on?

[moelk]

6 hours ago, RS02 said:

 

Thanks man. I did want to use this head but people kept telling me that the chamber design of late model E88s are just not good for proformance. Now I'm not sure if I want to find another one or just use this. I will get my old camshaft regrinded to a more aggresive one and that might actually work...

Your right about that head! Many people say its a bad design. I have almost the same engine you will build and i also wasent sure if i would be happy with that head do to all thats been said about it.

I live in Sweden and there are NO parts here and i desided to use what I had.

I also called a known engine builder in California and he said it's not that bad at all if you do some mods to it.

My friend how build my engine also built his engine at the same time using the same parts exept he had an N42 head.

I think my car makes slightly more power but that could be the gearing.

My car put down 180hp to the rear wheels and I guess that good numbers because the head haven't been ported and I haven't taken my time to really get it tuned yet. 

Just my thoughts.

Im no expert.

keep on posting and good luck!

 

 

[siteunseen]

I bought my parts a little cheaper than what you have shown.  If those are Nissan I can understand the difference.  I bought all I could from Advance Auto online and used a 30% discount code.  I also bought my cam kit from Schneider Cams for $427.  I sent in a JAPAN marked cam and they sent me a cut cam (not mine) and the springs plus new retainers and lash pads.  I called and talked with them beforehand and the guy told me I would have to buy new rockers or have mine resurfaced to be in compliance with their warranty.  I've read dozens of people saying the same as Leon V says above but for another $50 I thought it was worth it.  So $500 for a complete cam kit using my cam and rockers.  It's their number 270-90F, MSA calls it a Stage III.

The Felpro manifold gasket is shaped like a diamond on the exhaust ports to match square and round headers/manifolds.  The Nissan matches the square ports on my MSA header perfect, it's the head that I had to grind.  Most of the parts you're buying will have their own gaskets, timing cover, water pump and oil pump but it's nice to have the whole kit if you've never put one together.  When I did #2 rebuild I bought a Felpro head gasket and that Nissan manifold gasket, used the ones that came with the parts and cut the rest out of gasket material I bought from a chain store.  It was only the coolant inlet and outlet and the carburetors.

It would be nice if you could find a newer head and rob the oiler cam and towers to put on the E88, plus the spray bar.  You'd want a turbo high volume oil pump...blah blah blah.  I could go on forever. 

 

[RS02]

5 hours ago, moelk said:

Your right about that head! Many people say its a bad design. I have almost the same engine you will build and i also wasent sure if i would be happy with that head do to all thats been said about it.

I live in Sweden and there are NO parts here and i desided to use what I had.

I also called a known engine builder in California and he said it's not that bad at all if you do some mods to it.

My friend how build my engine also built his engine at the same time using the same parts exept he had an N42 head.

I think my car makes slightly more power but that could be the gearing.

My car put down 180hp to the rear wheels and I guess that good numbers because the head haven't been ported and I haven't taken my time to really get it tuned yet. 

Just my thoughts.

Im no expert.

keep on posting and good luck!

 

 

Well E88 is not a bad thing plus I need to save because it's a buget build after all. I'll try port the head to fit the reproductioned "Nismo" Gasket and see how it goes. 

[RS02]

3 hours ago, siteunseen said:

I bought my parts a little cheaper than what you have shown.  If those are Nissan I can understand the difference.  I bought all I could from Advance Auto online and used a 30% discount code.  I also bought my cam kit from Schneider Cams for $427.  I sent in a JAPAN marked cam and they sent me a cut cam (not mine) and the springs plus new retainers and lash pads.  I called and talked with them beforehand and the guy told me I would have to buy new rockers or have mine resurfaced to be in compliance with their warranty.  I've read dozens of people saying the same as Leon V says above but for another $50 I thought it was worth it.  So $500 for a complete cam kit using my cam and rockers.  It's their number 270-90F, MSA calls it a Stage III.

The Felpro manifold gasket is shaped like a diamond on the exhaust ports to match square and round headers/manifolds.  The Nissan matches the square ports on my MSA header perfect, it's the head that I had to grind.  Most of the parts you're buying will have their own gaskets, timing cover, water pump and oil pump but it's nice to have the whole kit if you've never put one together.  When I did #2 rebuild I bought a Felpro head gasket and that Nissan manifold gasket, used the ones that came with the parts and cut the rest out of gasket material I bought from a chain store.  It was only the coolant inlet and outlet and the carburetors.

It would be nice if you could find a newer head and rob the oiler cam and towers to put on the E88, plus the spray bar.  You'd want a turbo high volume oil pump...blah blah blah.  I could go on forever. 

 

Very useful. Thanks. I got the price from most of the companies like Datsun Sprint, MSA, Z speciallists, etc. I didn't buy the fel-pro kit and I'm planning on get the big port gasket from Datsun Sprint. I'd better start looking for parts on Advance Auto. Save me more money and this project could go way more easier. Also I will get the turbo pump since everybody says it's a must.

Edited September 16, 2016 by RS02

[moelk]

Don't forget to check with zcardepot! 

Great prices and even better service

[siteunseen]

That engine stainless steel bolt kit from Zcardepot.com was very nice for $99, I forgot about that.  It has all your exhaust manifold studs with proper lock nuts included.  Everything is separately packaged and labeled, very nice.  He may have a bearing kit too, I like the way he does things by getting everything together for you and selling it all together as a kit.

I would also buy some Aviation Gasket Sealer and a bottle of Anti-Seize Thread Lubricant from Advance Auto with the discount.  If you have a store close by, use the "ship to store" option at checkout and pick it up there.  No shipping charges.

I wasn't too happy with the felpro rear main crank seal and those flat side seals and nails.  The second motor i bought a Nissan seal and the side seals, way better in my opinion.  I've got those part numbers in a file I can post later.

[RS02]

Zcar depot is a good place. Thanks for reminding me to put the anti freeze and gasket into my list. I'll never complete whtout these!

[RS02]

Engine parts
Big port manifold kit	60	Datsun sprint
Head Gasket kit	225	Datsun sprint
L28 swivel polish valve	225	Datsun sprint
Engine main bearing kit	98	ZCar depot
Water pump	41	ZCar depot
81-83 flattop pistons	390	Z speciallists
Valve spring kit	170	MSA
Valve seats 75 intake,	78+70	MSA
Lash pad kit	85	MSA
oil pump	93	MSA
Cam gear	150	MSA
freeze plug kit	27	ZCar depot
engine Bolt kit	95	ZCar depot
Con-rod bearing	33	ZCar depot
Timing cover gasket set	15	ZCar depot
crank gear	12	Advance auto
Timing chain	49	Advance auto
Oil pan gasket	8	Advance auto
Rear main seal	15	Advance auto
Cluch alignment	4	Advance auto
Rocker arm renew	50	Delta cam
cam regrind	70	230/488 grind Delta cam
Z therapy carb rebuild	680	Z therapy
Form-a-gasket	9	Advance auto
Anti seize	8	Amazon

Update: Should be all I need?