Posted September 18, 20168 yr comment_503449 ok, maybe this is biting me in the face and i just dont see the answer. how can i fit a higher lift cam in the towers if the cam lobes are higher than the the journals? this cam measures out at .433 lift at the valve. i want to go closer to .500 the lobes right now are almost even with the journals. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56204-stupid-cam-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 18, 20168 yr comment_503460 The cam lift is the difference between the long axis and short axis of the lobe profile. Negligible metal is removed from the nose (top) of the lobe when re-ground. Below are some drawings I made many years ago. They should make it a bit clearer. The geometry requires the lash pad to make up for the amount ground. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56204-stupid-cam-question/#findComment-503460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 18, 20168 yr comment_503461 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56204-stupid-cam-question/#findComment-503461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 18, 20168 yr comment_503462 And the cam journals are staggered in such a way that they go through the cam bearings at the same time so as to leave room once they are through to slightly move the cam to avoid hitting and scratching the cam bearing. Removing and installing a cam is the most potentially dangerous time there as it is SO easy to scratch the bearing surfaces, very hard cam metal, very soft bearing metal. Beers only to be enjoyed after the job. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56204-stupid-cam-question/#findComment-503462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 18, 20168 yr comment_503463 1 hour ago, Blue said: The cam lift is the difference between the long axis and short axis of the lobe profile. Negligible metal is removed from the nose (top) of the lobe when re-ground. Below are some drawings I made many years ago. They should make it a bit clearer. The geometry requires the lash pad to make up for the amount ground. Good job Blue......nice illustrations! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56204-stupid-cam-question/#findComment-503463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 18, 20168 yr Author comment_503469 1 hour ago, Diseazd said: Good job Blue......nice illustrations! yes, that makes perfect sense now. thanks Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56204-stupid-cam-question/#findComment-503469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 18, 20168 yr Author comment_503470 ok, so looking at the cam i have, does it look to be factory to you guys? if so, is it cheaper to have it re-ground or a new cam? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56204-stupid-cam-question/#findComment-503470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 18, 20168 yr comment_503482 Looks stock to me......Isky charges $175.00 to regrind. Depending on the lift, you'll need springs and lash pads. You mentioned .500 lift......should not be a contact problem if you overbbore your L24 by .030 inches or more....also, you'll need a shorter valve seal. What engine are you running? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56204-stupid-cam-question/#findComment-503482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 19, 20168 yr Author comment_503529 E31 L24 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56204-stupid-cam-question/#findComment-503529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 19, 20168 yr comment_503536 I ground a notch on the tops of the bores on the block instead of over boring. Im on a budget. Exhaust and intake valves are the larger 2.8 size and I'd read from Carl Beck that they will slightly hit making a tapping noise that drove him crazy. FYI I also have an E31 with the bigger valves. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56204-stupid-cam-question/#findComment-503536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 19, 20168 yr Author comment_503544 i dropped the head off today at the machine shop. guy was surprised at how good of shape it is in. $75 to have it all checked out, then go from there Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56204-stupid-cam-question/#findComment-503544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 21, 20168 yr Author comment_503674 On 9/18/2016 at 4:55 AM, Blue said: Blue, looking at your pics i see a thicker lash pad after the cam is ground. is this to keep the rocker tip centered on the lash pad? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56204-stupid-cam-question/#findComment-503674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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