April 29, 20177 yr comment_519456 Did you have any rubbing issues running the 215s on the 16x7 rota rb wheels? I bought identical wheels and would like to run the 215s, if they don't rub. Is your car stock height? I assume they're +4 offset.Love the look on your car!ThanksSent from my iPad using Classic Zcar Club mobile Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56594-spinning-my-wheels-yet-another-wheel-thread/?&page=3#findComment-519456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 29, 20177 yr Author comment_519461 I put 225s on there and haven't had any problems rubbing. 215 should be fine too. 225 is a fair amount of tire, but options at my budget were better with that size. My car is on Vogtland springs, dropped about 1.25" all around. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56594-spinning-my-wheels-yet-another-wheel-thread/?&page=3#findComment-519461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 29, 20177 yr comment_519463 Thanks, this is very helpful as I have the vogtland lowering springs on my car. They only lowered it about 1" , but I suspect it's due to the original springs being a bit weak.Sent from my iPad using Classic Zcar Club mobile Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56594-spinning-my-wheels-yet-another-wheel-thread/?&page=3#findComment-519463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 30, 20177 yr comment_519475 Be careful as every car and every brand/model of tire is different. Some cars don't rub and others rub badly. Tires can vary greatly in size depending on the shape of the tire. Some are trapezoidal and others are square. The more trapezoidal the tire, the less chance of rubbing, but also the less tread on the road. Tire widths are measured at the widest part of the sidewall, not at the tread and even then, there is no real standard. Much like tread wear ratings don't mean much. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56594-spinning-my-wheels-yet-another-wheel-thread/?&page=3#findComment-519475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 30, 20177 yr comment_519481 The above is true. I had a set of 205-70-14's that rubbed on tight hard corners and the same size of a different brand didn't. The car's lowered about an inch. I think the 205 is the width of the tread. Sidewall width isn't defined. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56594-spinning-my-wheels-yet-another-wheel-thread/?&page=3#findComment-519481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 30, 20177 yr comment_519500 Other way around Zed. 205 would be the sidewall. The tread width is always narrower, but some tires are much closer to the sidewall width than others. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56594-spinning-my-wheels-yet-another-wheel-thread/?&page=3#findComment-519500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 30, 20177 yr comment_519502 11 minutes ago, Jeff G 78 said: Other way around Zed. 205 would be the sidewall. The tread width is always narrower, but some tires are much closer to the sidewall width than others. Beg to differ: In Zed's example 205/70/14 = 205mm tread width, 70% of the tread width is the sidewall height (called aspect ratio), with 14 inch wheel diameter. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56594-spinning-my-wheels-yet-another-wheel-thread/?&page=3#findComment-519502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 30, 20177 yr comment_519503 Rob, I'm an automotive engineer. Trust me on this. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56594-spinning-my-wheels-yet-another-wheel-thread/?&page=3#findComment-519503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 30, 20177 yr comment_519505 Okay, to help people understand, I went to TireRack.com and copied the specs of two Hankook 225/50R16 tires and a General tire. The first Hankook is a medium performance tire and the second is a max performance summer tire. Note how different the tread widths are between the two tires. Keep in mind, these are both by the same manufacturer and they still vary greatly. The third tire is the same size, but a General. Note again how different the section width and tread widths are. Multiply section width by 25.4 to get the nominal tire width as advertized. The General is small and the Hankooks are much bigger than nominal. Edited April 30, 20177 yr by Jeff G 78 Added a 3rd tire to chart Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56594-spinning-my-wheels-yet-another-wheel-thread/?&page=3#findComment-519505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 30, 20177 yr comment_519506 Sorry about the misunderstanding on my part. I had assumed what made sense to me, that width meant tread width. The sidewall-to-sidewall width seems of little use, compared to tread width since rubber on the ground is the main purpose of being a tire. Weird that this labeling scheme has lasted so long, it's a lot less meaningful than I thought. There's no way to calculate tread width. So thanks for the TireRack link, it has immense value now. No offense I hope, if I add a few more references. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_code https://www.goodyearautoservice.com/en-US/tire-basics/tire-size https://www.tirebuyer.com/education/understanding-tire-sizes-and-types Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56594-spinning-my-wheels-yet-another-wheel-thread/?&page=3#findComment-519506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 30, 20177 yr comment_519509 No worries Zed, just trying to help clear things up. I deal with tire sizes every day and it's amazing how many variables there are just in sizing, let alone compounds and constructions. Tire engineering is a black art for sure. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56594-spinning-my-wheels-yet-another-wheel-thread/?&page=3#findComment-519509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 30, 20177 yr comment_519520 1 hour ago, Jeff G 78 said: Okay, to help people understand, I went to TireRack.com and copied the specs of two Hankook 225/50R16 tires and a General tire. The first Hankook is a medium performance tire and the second is a max performance summer tire. Note how different the tread widths are between the two tires. Keep in mind, these are both by the same manufacturer and they still vary greatly. The third tire is the same size, but a General. Note again how different the section width and tread widths are. Multiply section width by 25.4 to get the nominal tire width as advertized. The General is small and the Hankooks are much bigger than nominal. I love coming to this site and learning what I thought I knew was wrong. Thanks for taking the time to explain. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56594-spinning-my-wheels-yet-another-wheel-thread/?&page=3#findComment-519520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Create an account or sign in to comment