December 7, 20177 yr Author comment_536862 Bad news. I talked to an experienced engine builder. I told him that I only measured 1 piston ring gap (I seriously don't understand why I did this). He strongly recommended to start over, and that's what I am going to do ..first engine, lesson learnt! I just hope that I won't run into any issues with reusing the head and rod bolts. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56751-l28-stroker-build-i-need-your-advice/?&page=10#findComment-536862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 7, 20177 yr comment_536877 Awe man, bummer. When I tore my head gasket and had to pull the head off my newly rebuilt motor the forum said that since the head bolts hadn't been through a heat cycle they should be fine to re-use. That was two years ago and no issues since. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56751-l28-stroker-build-i-need-your-advice/?&page=10#findComment-536877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 7, 20177 yr Author comment_536880 A friend of mine just checked his piston ring gaps. He got exactly the same rings+pistons, same bore (same engine shop), all gaps were within spec (on the tight side, though). It is very unlikely that my gaps would be any different... However, I might still tear it all down again. Let's see. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56751-l28-stroker-build-i-need-your-advice/?&page=10#findComment-536880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 7, 20177 yr comment_536887 1 hour ago, german240 said: A friend of mine just checked his piston ring gaps. He got exactly the same rings+pistons, same bore (same engine shop), all gaps were within spec (on the tight side, though). It is very unlikely that my gaps would be any different... However, I might still tear it all down again. Let's see. In theory they will all be the same but sometimes cylinders vary a little bit after honing. It's cheap insurance while the motor is out to go ahead and check them all. Do you have a bore gauge to check run out? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56751-l28-stroker-build-i-need-your-advice/?&page=10#findComment-536887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 7, 20177 yr Author comment_536889 I wouldn't say it's cheap.. All new gaskets, new bolts and a lot of time. My friend had exactly the same ring gaps all around, no variance at all. But you still are right! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56751-l28-stroker-build-i-need-your-advice/?&page=10#findComment-536889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 7, 20177 yr comment_536892 Unfortunately you can’t take that for granted that all the rings are the same. Why and what new bolts are needed? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56751-l28-stroker-build-i-need-your-advice/?&page=10#findComment-536892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 7, 20177 yr comment_536894 I would reuse everything gaskets, bolts, etc. The time is cheap compared to destroying a freshly rebuilt engine Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56751-l28-stroker-build-i-need-your-advice/?&page=10#findComment-536894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 8, 20177 yr Author comment_536923 The question is: What are correct ring gap specs for this application? It is not a KA24E engine (where the pistons are from), nor a stock L28. NPR (Japan ring manufacturer) lists the following ring gaps: I'm still undecided @madkaw are you sure that the head bolts (got new OEM turbo bolts) are not a yield type? Edited December 8, 20177 yr by german240 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56751-l28-stroker-build-i-need-your-advice/?&page=10#findComment-536923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 8, 20177 yr comment_536951 7 hours ago, german240 said: The question is: What are correct ring gap specs for this application? It is not a KA24E engine (where the pistons are from), nor a stock L28. NPR (Japan ring manufacturer) lists the following ring gaps: I'm still undecided @madkaw are you sure that the head bolts (got new OEM turbo bolts) are not a yield type? you'd gap the rings for the pistons, so surely you'd gap as per ka24e engine specs/manual? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56751-l28-stroker-build-i-need-your-advice/?&page=10#findComment-536951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 8, 20177 yr comment_536968 I would think you would gap per the ring manufacturer specs like the ones you listed based on the piston they're on. I would think ring position relative to combustion and the size of the groove in the piston is the overriding factor not the block they are mounted in. I would think a flame front is a flame front. I suspect compression has more effect on the rings than what the engine is... Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56751-l28-stroker-build-i-need-your-advice/?&page=10#findComment-536968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 9, 20177 yr Author comment_537024 Piston and piston ring gap are totally independent. It all depends on ring material and block material as only the difference in thermal expansion is relevant. That's why I won't find a perfect answer, realised this today Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56751-l28-stroker-build-i-need-your-advice/?&page=10#findComment-537024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 10, 20177 yr comment_537065 Those are wide spec ranges. Builders tend to open the gap if they expect a hot running engine. Even if you had stock pistons you'd probably still not have a clear answer. Those KA pistons aren't that much different from stock, and you don't have a turbo or anything special. Just avoid the small number and you'll probably be fine. Another interesting topic that we can spend lots of time on though. Thanks. http://www.acl.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/4-Compression-Ring-Gaps-For-High-Performance-Engines.pdf Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/56751-l28-stroker-build-i-need-your-advice/?&page=10#findComment-537065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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