March 2, 20178 yr Author comment_514230 They came with the car bud. So I am not sure, but I can measure the back spacing this evening. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57060-msa-satin-black-konig-rewinds-are-coming-need-tires/?&page=6#findComment-514230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 3, 20178 yr Author comment_514299 I just laid a straight edge over both tires, and as I suspected, the Konigs mounting flange is 1/2" less deep so they will stick out more. I am not comfortable with that, as I know with my cars suspension it may rub. I also do not like the look of how far they are sticking out. Just got use to the OEM looking Panasports. I can see Guy smiling now. He always said, I would keep my panasports. So I have to sell my brand new wheels/tires. I can demount them and just sell wheels I suppose ad I can use the tires. Anybody game? Make offer! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57060-msa-satin-black-konig-rewinds-are-coming-need-tires/?&page=6#findComment-514299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 3, 20178 yr comment_514303 That's too bad. I think they look awesome. I am willing to be your Panasports have a positive offset. Pretty much all other Z aftermarket wheels will be zero like the Rewinds. Sent from my iPhone using Classic Zcar Club mobile Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57060-msa-satin-black-konig-rewinds-are-coming-need-tires/?&page=6#findComment-514303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 3, 20178 yr Author comment_514330 This image sort of sums it up. the front tire look like a truck tire to me. I cannot shake it! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57060-msa-satin-black-konig-rewinds-are-coming-need-tires/?&page=6#findComment-514330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 3, 20178 yr comment_514334 1 hour ago, Zedyone_kenobi said: This image sort of sums it up. the front tire look like a truck tire to me. I cannot shake it! Saw this and it sorta looks like yours, rides a little higher in the front too. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57060-msa-satin-black-konig-rewinds-are-coming-need-tires/?&page=6#findComment-514334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 3, 20178 yr comment_514339 1 hour ago, Zedyone_kenobi said: This image sort of sums it up. the front tire look like a truck tire to me. I cannot shake it! Hmm I like it! But you would need a drop in the front. The color of the rims blends together with the tires and fouls the eye. Would maybe look better with a dark grey/gunmetal color? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57060-msa-satin-black-konig-rewinds-are-coming-need-tires/?&page=6#findComment-514339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 3, 20178 yr comment_514341 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57060-msa-satin-black-konig-rewinds-are-coming-need-tires/?&page=6#findComment-514341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 3, 20178 yr Author comment_514343 moelk, those are Wats.not Konigs. You can tell by the dish and the way the step downs blend with a curve. The Konigs are not as deep and have straight edges. The front of my car being so high is a mystery to me. I run the same springs as many people (Eibach pros, and noticed the larger from gap immediately. My Tokikos sat with even wheel spacing. No idea why. I bought the eibachs after many recommendations from people but when I put them on I noticed the larger front gap. I have never been happy about it. Love the ride compliance it gives, but do not care for the look. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57060-msa-satin-black-konig-rewinds-are-coming-need-tires/?&page=6#findComment-514343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 3, 20178 yr comment_514344 Are you sure the front and rear are in the right positions? I've read a lot of stories of people installing them in the wrong positions. The longer springs go in the rear, but in some cases, the springs are mis-marked from Eibach. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57060-msa-satin-black-konig-rewinds-are-coming-need-tires/?&page=6#findComment-514344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 3, 20178 yr comment_514349 On 3/2/2017 at 8:12 AM, Zedyone_kenobi said: OH also of note on these Konigs. They say they are 0 offset, but they are most definitely NOT. My Graphite Konigs were 0 offset. I was sure those would be the same. Check this out showing offsets explained. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57060-msa-satin-black-konig-rewinds-are-coming-need-tires/?&page=6#findComment-514349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 3, 20178 yr comment_514353 I would think MSA would for sure have 0 offset on that lug nut pattern wheel exclusively made for our cars. But if you don't like them there's no changing your mind now. I'm the same way, ask any of my exes. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57060-msa-satin-black-konig-rewinds-are-coming-need-tires/?&page=6#findComment-514353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 3, 20178 yr Author comment_514354 Oh I fully understand offsets. I just measured that the back space on the panasport is 1/2" MORE than the Konig. I am sure my panapsort has 0 on the back of it as well. I will double check. I double checked my suspension thread, and many say the longer springs go in the front. Jeff G are you sure about the longer ones going in the back? I was sure the ones ending in 1 were the front. Edited March 3, 20178 yr by Zedyone_kenobi Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57060-msa-satin-black-konig-rewinds-are-coming-need-tires/?&page=6#findComment-514354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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