Posted April 6, 20177 yr comment_517347 #1 piston at tdc, silver link on timing chain on #1 on sprocket, v-notch on cam sprocket lines up with the little line, timing mark on the crank pulley at 0*, and the rotor is centered on #1 plug wire with the distributor centered in it adjustment range. i cannot get this pig to run without back fire through the exhaust, unless i advance the timing to around 35-40 degrees at idle. with the timing set at 15* at idle, and i run the rpms from 2200 and up, i get continuous back-fire in the exhaust. any ideas?????????? ill post a video tomorrow thanks all sb Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57439-at-wits-end/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 6, 20177 yr comment_517365 The first two cam lobes are pointed up? Can you see/feel #1 piston at TDC? Plug wires are in correct order? What's the history on the car? Any recent changes? How does the distributor look inside? Cap and rotor? EFI or carbs? How are your plug wires? I'm thinking ignition issues right now. Chuck Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57439-at-wits-end/#findComment-517365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 6, 20177 yr comment_517367 TDC compression stroke? Big difference.... like Chuck said.....first two cam lobes pointing up when piston is on TDC (compression stroke). Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57439-at-wits-end/#findComment-517367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 6, 20177 yr comment_517369 Sounds like you are not advanced enough. Depending on the distributor mount, your reference for where #1 on cap is located can vary. Quick check would be to rotate your plugs in the distributor by 1 then retry. It could also be the oil pump spindle out of alignment with the distributor. Edited April 6, 20177 yr by 240260280 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57439-at-wits-end/#findComment-517369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 6, 20177 yr comment_517385 13 hours ago, sweatybetty said: i run the rpms from 2200 and up, i get continuous back-fire in the exhaust. any ideas?????????? Maybe an exhaust valve stuck open? Is it like pop pop pop pop pop ....? "Continuous" implies that the same thing is happening every series of cycles, unlike the somewhat randomness of ignition misfires. A compression check or leakdown test might show something, or a very close examination of the valves and rocker arms. Double-check the lash. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57439-at-wits-end/#findComment-517385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 6, 20177 yr Author comment_517399 7 hours ago, cbuczesk said: The first two cam lobes are pointed up? Can you see/feel #1 piston at TDC? Plug wires are in correct order? What's the history on the car? Any recent changes? How does the distributor look inside? Cap and rotor? EFI or carbs? How are your plug wires? I'm thinking ignition issues right now. Chuck yes, yes and yes. new wires, cap and rotor. everything i have read on backfires, points to ignition. if i advance the timing to 35-40 degrees at idle, it runs fine.. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57439-at-wits-end/#findComment-517399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 6, 20177 yr Author comment_517400 6 hours ago, 240260280 said: Sounds like you are not advanced enough. Depending on the distributor mount, your reference for where #1 on cap is located can vary. Quick check would be to rotate your plugs in the distributor by 1 then retry. It could also be the oil pump spindle out of alignment with the distributor. with everything at tdc, the rotor is pointing dead nuts to the correct cap terminal as shown in the fsm Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57439-at-wits-end/#findComment-517400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 6, 20177 yr comment_517401 TDC compression stroke....is the little half moon exactly at 11:30 facing forward? Also, I'm sure you know the rotor rotates counter clockwise......not clockwise. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57439-at-wits-end/#findComment-517401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 6, 20177 yr comment_517402 It should be just past #1 by the amount of advance, Did you confirm the spindle tang alignment with the oil pump? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57439-at-wits-end/#findComment-517402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 6, 20177 yr Author comment_517403 2 hours ago, Zed Head said: Maybe an exhaust valve stuck open? Is it like pop pop pop pop pop ....? "Continuous" implies that the same thing is happening every series of cycles, unlike the somewhat randomness of ignition misfires. A compression check or leakdown test might show something, or a very close examination of the valves and rocker arms. Double-check the lash. i did re-set the valve lash after posting here. my cam calls for .010 hot on both valves, so after the initial start-up and maybe 1 hour of run-time, i reset them at .008 cold. i think i may try going back to .010 cold. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57439-at-wits-end/#findComment-517403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 6, 20177 yr Author comment_517404 thanks to you all! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57439-at-wits-end/#findComment-517404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 6, 20177 yr Author comment_517407 1 minute ago, Diseazd said: ....is the little half moon exactly at 11:30 facing forward? i will re-check that. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57439-at-wits-end/#findComment-517407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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