280zx 1979 2+2 slick roof restauration

[dutchzcarguy]

Yep, those are plastic covers for the front fender, i put them on last week!  Held by the small round clip..

So there is no seal visible when all the stainless is on.  Thanks again! (today the front screen is going in.. i hope..)

[bartsscooterservice]

On 6/13/2020 at 6:49 PM, Zed Head said:

I didn't think that Nissan used liquid sealant on the glass.  Everything was preformed rubber.  On the 280Z's the chrome strip fits in a groove in the preformed rubber, to help lock the rubber in place.

How about a picture of the specific seal, the way that you want it to be?  Not sure about what exactly the issue is...

That's a big problem for rust on these cars. 5 years ago an immitation front wind shield rubber was put into my 240Z at the paint shop. On some spots on the roof it's slowly letting some water through I can allready see on the paint almost microscopic bits. The original must have been better quality. Always a fight against rust with these Datsun's...?

[bartsscooterservice]

On 6/14/2020 at 11:09 AM, dutchzcarguy said:

Hihi... Zed Head must have been a bit sleepy..?  (what's the headline of this Topic, Zed??)

It's about a 280ZX.. never mind.  Tuesday the glass guy comes and takes a look.. he does all the repairwork on all the paintshop cars that come in for a paint or repair job.

I'm sure he has a solution to this problem  (fingers crossed!) ?

It will be better to put some extra liquid sealant ( RTV of however you call it in english ? ) in place before you put it all in, because in the olds days the seals didn't do their job very well, hence all the rusted out pieces..

But let the window guy decide..

[dutchzcarguy]

18 hours ago, bartsscooterservice said:

It will be better to put some extra liquid sealant ( RTV of however you call it in english ? ) in place before you put it all in, because in the olds days the seals didn't do their job very well, hence all the rusted out pieces..

AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH  !!!   BART...  your a sleepy guy to! ?

WE ARE RESTORING A 280ZX   with the X!  S130 Z  XXXXXXXXXX ! HERE... unbelieveble..?  A 280zX does NOT have a seal!  Most of it is SEALANT!  It only uses a set of 2 rubber strips to keep the stainless  in place! (no not chrome, its stainless with some extra chrome IN it.)

btw the glassguy wasn't there yesterday.. he'll be there today  (i hope?) forgot his appointment ???  He's an older guy, should know how to do this!  (soms lijkt het wel een bejaardensoos in de shop hahaha    translated: sometimes it looks like an old peoples home in the shop  HAHAHA! ?

[Zed Head]

Never mind.

 

Edited June 17, 2020 by Zed Head

[dutchzcarguy]

Lots of parts installed this week, all in good used or new state, it's nice to see that it's finaly going to get ready.. 

The windscreen is still not in but we are going to do it ourselves..  (as we say.. if you want it done the right way.. you have to do it yourself... oeps.. )

The guy for the windscreen is not showing up, he says he got no clips or anything to work with so have started the job by putting in some clips and did already a test fit and then you can see there is not much overlapping..

"glued" the clips i have in with some rubber sealant..

After some good research, how to fit it, I'll put the windscreen in myself with maybe some help of the shop owner.

I got all the professional stuff for it handy so i should go well.

 

I also installed the door rubber, it's like new stuff and been in storage a long time.

Very nice soft rubber that fits to the door glass perfectly!

 

Rear side windows..

 

Some super nice side covers!!

 

Front parts installed!

 

 

Bumper stay.. (with a tap in it for cleaning up the thread.)

 

inside the chassis where the stay go's.. without the NEW wax..  (was wax'ed a long time ago..)

And with wax on!

Installed!

The front ready..

 

 

 

 

Edited June 21, 2020 by dutchzcarguy

[dutchzcarguy]

Finally... Yesterday my Datsun 280zx slickroof 1979 2+2 got inspected for the Dutch APK (english-MOT or German-TUV.)  It Passed!

Here some of the last things i installed, after some... eh.. a lot!! of wax in the doors i installed the carts, they are 41 years old, can you believe it? (the pre owners were pretty good to the car.. they cared..)

 

A clear feature of a early 280zx, (chrome is nicer in real then on picture.)

 

extra attention to the original foam in the middle of the pic...   the door is still dripping waxoil.. :-0 

 

sticky plastic against sticky plastic so the mechanism can move!

 

this  spare wheel casing plate got some new foam..

The rear window installed, even the rear heating works! (The installation of the stainless was no pain in the butt, thanks to a rubber treadment that made everything slide inn! ?  )  First you put in the stainless then the window into the hatch.

Rear roof cover installed.. (still the original one.)

Then there was the front glass.. 

When testfitting with a "college" he hitted the edge but we thought it did'nt hurt it.. 

A small crack became a big one... so.. this was the car's 4th windscreen.. i had to order a new one..  AAARRRGGGHHH !!!

 

See the crack coming from the corner..

I forgive him... it can happen to anyone..

A Pic for future screen installers.. ? (sorry can't rotate the pic..)

A clip,  normally they are on a strip, 7 in top and 9 in the bottom of the screen.

BTW.. the windscreen was for a fairlady 260zx... i've never seen one hahaha..   it does not exist!

 

Still to install.. these.. where they go? not the faintest idea.. wheelwell?  RTFM!

 

And then i was at the shop with suddenly 2 cars.. nice set hey??

Finally at home (Half a mile hahaha)  It rained a bit, cleaning has to be done, some of the waxoil sprayed over it accidently.. 

 

When i drove to the APK  (MOT) i felt that my giant friend (NOT!) Danny the first painter (who did'nt paint!) had uninstalled the steeringwheel with a hammer? It says clearly on a sticker on the wheel: DO NOT HIT WITH A HAMMER!   But hey.. he's a butthead.. clearly.. so i'm looking for a new bearing or steering column assembly.. again some extra costs because one thinks to have found someone who can do it for a few bucks.. (He was a son of a college of a friend.. told my friend if he knows someone for a job next time... say NOTHING!! 

 

Now this restore is coming to an end.. i can say that the costs were a bit more than thought at first but all and all it was within budget..  It took from buying till this day almost 7 years.. They went by fast.. 

Later on i will put some pic's here from a clean car in the sun...

 

Edited July 2, 2020 by dutchzcarguy

[bartsscooterservice]

Nicely done Mart..

Windscreen seems a pain in the arse...

You will get it sorted out soon. You should sell the 300zx tt and restore a 240 ?

I'm still not done with my cars either, will I ever be ?

[dutchzcarguy]

21 hours ago, bartsscooterservice said:

You should sell the 300zx tt and restore a 240

Haha.. yeah... might be a good idea..

But i'm a bit tired for now.. the 280 is on the carlift now in my own garage and i'll have to do the underside with teroson/waxoil and stuff.. and a good cleanup.. Still have a few plastic parts that shoud fit someware under the 2 front light buckets and in the wheelwells  Haha.. no idea were they go....  i have to look in the manual!

Another look at the stainless all around the car is also necessary..  polish some faint scratches out.. (i decided to do this ON the car because you can't polish them off the car... (ask people here on the site! )

About restoring a 240z.. i don't have to restore mine just give it a few nice rear fender wheelwells and a new paintjob..  Clean up the engineroom (by taking the engine out and give that a good service..) and paint that as well..  oh well..  ?   take it all out and restore the car hahaha.... ? it has been 22 years ago that i started the restore! (Drive it now for over 20 years.. IN THE WINTER!!)

[Terrapin Z]

@dutchzcarguy Not sure if you Facebook but this came through my scroll today. 

[dutchzcarguy]

Hi, thank you for telling me!  But it's only the one, there are 2 different strips needed for 1 shield. and mine is already in.. There is a z(x) partsdealer in the states that still has that strip.. (z store or zcardepot or something..)  Now is to find out if this is the other one.. ? But i no longer need a set..  

Edited July 26, 2020 by dutchzcarguy

[Terrapin Z]

2 hours ago, dutchzcarguy said:

. ? But i'm no longer need a set..  

I thought you might be past needing this piece, even if it was only half of the required amount to fit the car. 

It was an original Nissan part, and not an aftermarket piece. They always seem to fit a little better IMO.