August 28, 20231 yr comment_656378 Removed the heater box stripped to replace the foam on the door (and clean) the other thing I've been avoiding is the holes they made for the evaporator drains -the ARA unit has a drain on each side. So, they punched a 1/2" forward facing hole on each side of the tunnel, apparently with a pick. The only way to address it is to drill new larger (30mm) holes that will accept a grommet for the drain tubes rot pass through primed & paintedĀ after that I put the heater box back in In removing the control panel I found this I need to address - the fan speed gear is cracked Edited August 28, 20231 yr by HusseinHolland Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57948-designing-ac-system-using-other-cars-parts/?&page=6#findComment-656378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 28, 20231 yr comment_656379 2 minutes ago, HusseinHolland said: In removing the control panel I found this I need to address - the fan speed gear is cracked I saw that on the AC controls that I have sitting around. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57948-designing-ac-system-using-other-cars-parts/?&page=6#findComment-656379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 28, 20231 yr comment_656383 Thought I saw a thread where someone here made one on a 3d printer. Fairly recent. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57948-designing-ac-system-using-other-cars-parts/?&page=6#findComment-656383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
August 29, 20231 yr comment_656429 Put the controls & evap box back in, connected the AC lines. installed the capillary tube in the center of the evaporator, inserted to full depth. The old one was shoved about an inch into the duct side of the core, not doing much in the way of registering core temp. As the PO said, the AC never worked very well. Need to get the AC circuit wired so I can wrap that aspect up. fixed the evap box drains by adding a elbow that is rear-facing, so air won't blow up the tubes when in motion. Edited September 1, 20231 yr by HusseinHolland typo Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57948-designing-ac-system-using-other-cars-parts/?&page=6#findComment-656429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 1, 20231 yr comment_656541 Enlarged the existing firewall spare hole near the heater ports to 30mm, and added another 30mm hole below it. One will be for the AC-related wiring & Bosch CIS system, the other will be spare for when I do the V6 conversion at some point. Using color coded wiring I've salvaged from a Fiat X1/9 and from a variety of Volvos figuring out suitable layout/routing.Ā Have to remove the water port & drill & tap the old EGR sender port to 12x1.5 for the CIS ECT. I have various waterproof 2.3mm terminal/connector housings to use for the firewall connections Ā Edited September 1, 20231 yr by HusseinHolland Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57948-designing-ac-system-using-other-cars-parts/?&page=6#findComment-656541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 2, 20231 yr comment_656563 After I worked on the clock this morning, I worked on the AC wiring harness today, in conjunction with the harness needed for the Bosch Constant Idle Speed (CIS) system 2 10 pole connectors (one tucked under the hood catch, for CIS) & one 4 pole. The 4 pole covers the AC control signals. Ā AC cutoff & AC cond. fan relays will go here. The details on the ID tag weren't legible anyway wiring inside. Made sure it doesn't interfere with the heater fan box CIS module will go up here K&N (RU-4650) filter arrived, so I put that in. Required since the AC condenser fan interferes with the stock airbox fitment. I have a plethora of 2.75" & 3" silicone couplers & aluminum pipes from various Volvo projects, so I used a 2.75" - 3" elbow coupler & 3" bend to fit the 3" inlet filter. Made sure the filter surface area far exceeds the demands of the engine displacement at redline (calculator for that) hopefully wrap up the bay side of the wiring tomorrow. Ā Edited September 6, 20231 yr by HusseinHolland Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57948-designing-ac-system-using-other-cars-parts/?&page=6#findComment-656563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 3, 20231 yr comment_656623 More wiring. Realized I have to remove the compressor as I didn't drain the mineral oil - I forgot that this compressor (TM15D) was setup for R12. Have to refill with Pag46Ā wiring overview Tucked behind hood catch, secured to firewall to make sure no issues with throttle linkage. Low pressure cutout on accumulator in foreground Harnesses routed alongside stock wiring. Have to secure the 2 relays Edited September 11, 20231 yr by HusseinHolland add pics - revised schematic Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57948-designing-ac-system-using-other-cars-parts/?&page=6#findComment-656623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 4, 20231 yr comment_656671 Added a heat shield for the AC lines Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57948-designing-ac-system-using-other-cars-parts/?&page=6#findComment-656671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 12, 20231 yr comment_656952 Haven't been able to work outside with all the rain. Just to keep things moving, I did a small amount of wiring inside the cabin - just the T/stat connections here, and routing wires for the delayed engagement relay VO 1363449. uses a sense signal from the alternator to only engage once the alternator is charging. The white/black wire to the V/reg (F terminal on alt) should be appropriate. Have a more compact low pressure switch that can go on the backside of the Accumulator facing the firewall, instead of the sticking out over the manifold VO 9144340 a bought a number of single pole waterproof connectors, so the bullet style will work for the D+ splice at the v/reg 6 pole connector, and at the AC compressor.Ā Ā Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57948-designing-ac-system-using-other-cars-parts/?&page=6#findComment-656952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 13, 20231 yr comment_656978 Wired the compressor & the delay relay signal from F at the V/reg swapped out the pressure switch Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57948-designing-ac-system-using-other-cars-parts/?&page=6#findComment-656978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 14, 20231 yr comment_657003 Not sure what refrigerant you have in your car R12 or 134A but if you're swapping out the compressor it is most likely is set up for 134A.Ā If the old system was R12 you need to flush the entire system andĀ replace the oil using a polyoester synthetic oil.Ā R12 systems used a mineral based oil and since in a refrigeration system the oil travels in the refrigerant you need to flush it before converting to 134A. Otherwise the mineral based oil will turn to sludge.Ā If you decide to stay with an R12 system expect to pay big bucks for R12 (if you can find it).Ā I'm talking $60+ per pound.Ā I used Auto AC Solutions out of Texas for my 73 restoration which formerly had an ARA system.Ā Nice guy, really helpful.Ā If you decide to go that route and would like more info on my install, contact me and we can talk about it (good & bad).Ā I have a post on here with some of the details of my install.Ā I believe it is under the Heating / AC category. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57948-designing-ac-system-using-other-cars-parts/?&page=6#findComment-657003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 15, 20231 yr comment_657073 On 9/14/2023 at 2:49 AM, z3beemer said: Not sure what refrigerant you have in your car R12 or 134A but if you're swapping out the compressor it is most likely is set up for 134A.Ā If the old system was R12 you need to flush the entire system andĀ replace the oil using a polyoester synthetic oil.Ā R12 systems used a mineral based oil and since in a refrigeration system the oil travels in the refrigerant you need to flush it before converting to 134A. Otherwise the mineral based oil will turn to sludge.Ā If you decide to stay with an R12 system expect to pay big bucks for R12 (if you can find it).Ā I'm talking $60+ per pound.Ā I used Auto AC Solutions out of Texas for my 73 restoration which formerly had an ARA system.Ā Nice guy, really helpful.Ā If you decide to go that route and would like more info on my install, contact me and we can talk about it (good & bad).Ā I have a post on here with some of the details of my install.Ā I believe it is under the Heating / AC category. Everything in the system is new, besides the evaporator. I will be using R134a. The compressor I have was intended for R12, which is why I have to remove it & drain the mineral oil before I go any further with it. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57948-designing-ac-system-using-other-cars-parts/?&page=6#findComment-657073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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