Fairlady Zg

[Stryder]

I found a Fairlady Zg. It is right hand drive. There is a little rust on hood and hatch. How much do you think I should be willing to pay for her?

[Z Kid]

Are we talking a true fairlady ZG, as in a factory made one as opposed to a replica, one with the correct is it 5 piece? gnose? If so you lucky bastard.

I'd yell for Alan at this point

[Stryder]

Its the real thing. I almost fliped out when the guy showed it to me. 2.4liter DOHC gnose. It's the real $^!#. man....

[Zpeed]

if ur sayings the a DOHC original G-nose, then id say buy it with watever money you have

[v12horse]

A price on a zg? These cars are extremely hard to come by becuase most of their owners are enthusiast that would never want to sell them. One in the US is almost unheard of. There was a white one that was selling in Japan not to long ago and the guy wanted 20,000 USD. I am not sure how much one is worth, but I would think it would be at least 20k. Have you seen the car? If you are sure that it is a factory 240zg you have a find that you might not come across for sometime. If you are not sure it is a true 240zg look at the vin #s. For a ZG the vin# starts with HS30-H. Caution: there are many fake Zg's. Most of the people that are selling these cars think they have a ZG and they really don't because bolt on g-nose kits were offered installed onto right hand drive autos. The ZG was built from October of 71' to September of 73'. What color is the car? They only came in GP white, GP red, and GP maroon. It would be awesome if you could post some pics of the car.

I could be wrong zspeed, but I don't think that the ZG ever came with a dohc engine. All the ZG's had the L24. The predessor to the ZG, which was the 432 had the S20(which is the dohc engine).

Like Z kid said, talk to Alan. I am sure he will see this thread. He has a ZG so he would be the best source for any of your questions. Take care. Man, a 240ZG. That is so awesome. I was planning someday to go to Japan and buy one there and have it shipped here, but you found one here. Wow. Good luck.

-Ben

[Z Kid]

Please please let it be an OS Giken twin cam head on a real factory ZG, then ship it straight to me

[Alfadog]

Sell your car, sell your house, sell your soul and sell your daughters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If it's real...

If it's just a good replica, you probably won't have to sell your soul.

I'm sure Alan knows several *other* distinctions between the two, other than the chassis number. You'd want to make sure it's the real deal before you buy I'm sure...

[Zedrally]

I wonder if it has a metal nose?

[Z Kid]

So the metal nose is still playing on your mind as well?

[HS30-H]

Thanks to Z Kid for alerting me to this thread.

First thing to note is that you will NOT be able to determine a real ZG from its chassis / VIN number. All genuine Factory-built ZG's start with the prefix "HS30" - just like most RHD L24-engined cars. The "HS30-H" code was a Factory model identification code, and does not appear anywhere on the car................

Stryder, to avoid paying over the odds for a non-genuine car I would investigate it very thoroughly if I were you. I know that there are several 'fake' ZG's in the USA ( that is to say, cars that people BELIEVE to be real ones - but are not ). The most common scenario is where a US serviceman has bought a car while stationed in Japan, and brought it back home with them. In many cases they bought locally tuned and modified cars, and were not necessarily in full command of the facts about their particular purchase. Modifying a 'normal' Fairlady Z into something that looks very close to a ZG is pretty common in Japan, but this does NOT make it a ZG.

There are a lot of things that you can look at to discern whether the car is a GENUINE ZG or not. The easiest for Japanese owners is to look at the identity papers for the car. These are pretty hard to fake, and the extra length and width of the ZG is clearly stated in the papers. As your car is in the States, it will mean that you will probably not have immediate access to these papers - however, when the car was imported a copy of the papers would have been kept by the US Customs. You can start by tracing back the import of the car. After that, you will want to be checking out a whole list of things to discern a real ZG from a faked or replicated one. I can give you some guide points if that will help you.

I think the first thing for you to eliminate is the Chassis / VIN number question. All true ZG's came with the "HS30" prefix, but so did many other models. At least if you see the "S30" prefix you will immediately know that it is not a real ZG. I've seen cars advertised for sale in the USA as 'real' ZG models - but saw that the Chassis / VIN number started with the 'S30' prefix, which definitely shows that they were not real ones.

As V12 Horse mentioned, real ZG's only came in three Factory colours. Checking whether the original paint was one of these three colours will help to start the process. You really need to get to a part of the car that will not have been repainted in the past. I'd try looking well up under the dash, under the vinyl trim and anywhere else you might think a repaint would not bother with. The problem here is that even if you DO find it was White or Red - it still does not prove its a real ZG, as ordinary HS30 models came in these colours too. The GP Maroon was not used on other models for the first year of ZG production, but was offered as an option in the Japanese market from then on. Again, its not conclusive proof, but if you find that the car was originally Silver, Blue, Green etc then it will NOT have been a ZG model.............

As V12 Horse also pointed out, the mechanicals on the ZG were just the same as the other HS30 models; L24 with the Hitachi SU's, 5-speed box and 3.9 R180 Diff.

If I were you I would eliminate these first questions before digging any deeper or parting with any money. Even if it IS a real ZG you will still need to let your head rule your heart and look at the true condition of the car.

If you need any detail advice then please feel free to contact me. I have spent a lot of time researching these cars and I think I have some good data that might be useful to you.

Good luck,

Alan T.

[Z Kid]

Stryder, did anything ever come of this? What was it like? Any pictures?