February 25, 20232 yr comment_650659 1 minute ago, Patcon said: So you built your own ECU and programming? Well I did assemble the ECU for the full diy experience, but you can get preassembled ones too. I use the standard Speeduino firmware and tuned it myself on the road. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/58568-duffys-171-series-1-240z-build/?&page=79#findComment-650659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 25, 20232 yr Author comment_650662 16 minutes ago, jonbill said: Well I did assemble the ECU for the full diy experience, but you can get preassembled ones too. I use the standard Speeduino firmware and tuned it myself on the road. Wow! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/58568-duffys-171-series-1-240z-build/?&page=79#findComment-650662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 25, 20232 yr Author comment_650663 1 hour ago, Zooter71 said: Well, I actually had not thought it through, which after reading your reply....I guess I'll stick with the SU's on the vehicle. I tuned them via the factory service manual just yesterday, and they work really well. Thanks for taking the time to explain the pitfalls! If anyone else is reading this, just ask and I'll scan the SU section of the factory manual for the round tops and post the files here. I know it's all over the internets, but it never hurts to have it more places. If someday you aren't happy with the SU's. The next step shouldn't be efi, unless you like to tinker and like computers or are fine spending money on tuning. EFI when do right is amazing, but not easy. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/58568-duffys-171-series-1-240z-build/?&page=79#findComment-650663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 26, 20232 yr Author comment_650693 Well I’m 99% sure I’m going DBW(drive by wire) on my ITB setup. I will be swapping ecus when I get Larry Asp new injectors at the head intake. I was googling DBW pedals and I thought the 350z pedal box looked mighty similar to the 240z one. I got one to check and wow it’s close. I love when manufacturers don’t stray too far from designs. Then googling some more and freaking Etsy sells a direct mount for it! Now I need to change the pedal pad to look stock, and powder coat the housing. But it should be a very simple mod/ install. This will unlock cold starts, progressive throttles and a host of other things like torque control etc… This is all Aaron Neubauer fault for posting about Emtron and their neat tuning method throttle mass flow. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/58568-duffys-171-series-1-240z-build/?&page=79#findComment-650693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 26, 20232 yr Author comment_650736 A quick little update on my 240z DBW gas pedal box from a 350z. I drilled the plate to match the 240z one then ground off the pedal stop. Lines up and bolts right in! I get full pedal travel and the stock stop on the floor it’s nicely. Next is buying a stock gas pedal and cutting off the pedal plate and welding it onto this one. Then powder coat it all to match the stock black. All in all very nice and easy. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/58568-duffys-171-series-1-240z-build/?&page=79#findComment-650736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 27, 20232 yr Author comment_650747 Gosh this is going to be nice. laser cut plate welded then off to powder. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/58568-duffys-171-series-1-240z-build/?&page=79#findComment-650747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 27, 20232 yr comment_650789 Duffy, Very cool, let me know the overall advantages with the Haltech ECU / tune. Hopefully DBW will fix the idle gain (after hot) and cold start set-up. I'm done throwing money at the EFI conversion, will stick with the stock throttle linkage /set -up. Planning a 300+ mile drive (round trip) on the new set-up end of April to Solvang, CA for the Datsun Roaster Classic, multi day event. Engine is self tunning (fuel map) at this point, hopefully will gain some corrective data on the top end of the fuel map, highway travel. Zooter71 - Ditto Duffy's comments. If I had to do all over again, would spend the initial dollars on a tunning course, HP or other. Money well spent. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/58568-duffys-171-series-1-240z-build/?&page=79#findComment-650789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 27, 20232 yr Author comment_650790 7 minutes ago, Blitzed said: Duffy, Very cool, let me know the overall advantages with the Haltech ECU / tune. Hopefully DBW will fix the idle gain (after hot) and cold start set-up. I'm done throwing money at the EFI conversion, will stick with the stock throttle linkage /set -up. Planning a 300+ mile drive (round trip) on the new set-up end of April to Solvang, CA for the Datsun Roaster Classic, multi day event. Engine is self tunning (fuel map) at this point, hopefully will gain some corrective data on the top end of the fuel map, highway travel. Zooter71 - Ditto Duffy's comments. If I had to do all over again, would spend the initial dollars on a tunning course, HP or other. Money well spent. Agreed on the tunning courses. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/58568-duffys-171-series-1-240z-build/?&page=79#findComment-650790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 28, 20232 yr Author comment_650865 Laser cut, welded, powder coated and ready to install! Clocking and bend is about perfect from stock. Stoked Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/58568-duffys-171-series-1-240z-build/?&page=79#findComment-650865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 1, 20232 yr Author comment_650868 ITB DBW update. Installed, feels and looks like stock! I had the stock pedal pad copied, then laser cut. Then welded onto the 350z pedal rod. I also had the pad bent to match my stock pedal and also clocked to match. After that I got it all powder coated to match. Should work great! I can tell it’s not attached to linkage, but it still feels somewhat stock. I like how I can’t really tell it’s not stock without looking hard. IMG_3890.MOV Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/58568-duffys-171-series-1-240z-build/?&page=79#findComment-650868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 13, 20231 yr Author comment_652522 Prepping the engine bay for Larry's new injectors at the head intake. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/58568-duffys-171-series-1-240z-build/?&page=79#findComment-652522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 27, 20231 yr Author comment_653073 Well my balance bar design is done. Basically i made decorative bolt on injector blanks for my vintage SK throttles. Should work awesome. The goal was to mimic what SK had in the 80s, these are my take on the original block off plates and vac plates. Next off to get cnc’d Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/58568-duffys-171-series-1-240z-build/?&page=79#findComment-653073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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