Posted November 9, 20177 yr comment_534425 So after zKars posted his latest car it looks like an pre 1971 HLSUN-30, which made me start to wonder how many of these cars are still around. Please do not hold me to any of the numbers that I am about to put out there as some are from other sources and some guesses on my parts. So the production records show that 1201 cars where shipped to Canada in 1970. If we remove the HLSU -30 cars that were shipped to Ontario. We would come up with the number of pre 1971(non-emission)HLSUN-30 cars. As I cannot find any records showing the different sub-sets of imports I will use population ratios to guess. The population of Canada was 21.3 Million and the population of Ontario was 6.96 Million we end up with around 810 cars that where shipped to the rest of Canada. I realize that this is quite rough as southern Ontario was the largest area of employment at the time in Canada so I would guess there would be more orders for these cars there than the farming areas on the prairies or the fishing communities of the east coast. I do not have a list of Canadian Datsun dealers, which might help with a better guess. So this subset of the HLS-30 looks to be as rare or rarer then the VIN number of less than 1000. Wish Datsun would have put the UN lettering in the firewall VIN I got some of the information from this post. Thanks @Mike B Edited November 9, 20177 yr by 240dkw Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/58919-wonder-how-many-hlsun-30-are-still-around/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 9, 20177 yr comment_534429 HLS30-00048 is the earliest UN I know. It may have had some part delays or issues because it was started life in October 1969 but was not shipped from the factory until February, 1970. HLS30-00126 & HLS30-00127 are both UN's Some crude info: Nov 28, 1969. Brandon Manitoba Brandon Sun Feb 5, 1970 " See the new 240Z arriving soon and watch for our Datsun new-car showing. " 1969 Hamilton Ad: Edited November 9, 20177 yr by 240260280 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/58919-wonder-how-many-hlsun-30-are-still-around/#findComment-534429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 9, 20177 yr comment_534440 3 hours ago, 240260280 said: HLS30-00048 is the earliest UN I know. It may have had some part delays or issues because it was started life in October 1969 but was not shipped from the factory until February, 1970. HLS30-00048 was originally a US car. It came from Washington state. Gab got it and restored it when he lived in Vancouver. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/58919-wonder-how-many-hlsun-30-are-still-around/#findComment-534440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 9, 20177 yr comment_534444 It must have been a UN spec that went to Washington, (by ship or by road) or it was restored as a UN? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/58919-wonder-how-many-hlsun-30-are-still-around/#findComment-534444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 9, 20177 yr comment_534446 I thought that some early US cars with 1969 production dates were UN spec. Maybe @Carl Beck or @26th-Z will chime in. Here's another 1970 Canadian ad, Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/58919-wonder-how-many-hlsun-30-are-still-around/#findComment-534446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 9, 20177 yr comment_534450 HLS30-00048 was originally a US car, probably an HLS30U like my cars. It was restored as a UN. I own the remains of HLS30-00403 which I bought several years ago. It was a UN - 11/69 build date. According to my references, the HLS30 UV had an evaporative emission control device and the HLS30 U did not. They had a smog pump but not evap. tank in the quarter panel. The gas tanks are peculiar also because of the lack of the vent hoses. Edited November 9, 20177 yr by 26th-Z Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/58919-wonder-how-many-hlsun-30-are-still-around/#findComment-534450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 9, 20177 yr comment_534454 Interesting, Thanks @26th-Z Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/58919-wonder-how-many-hlsun-30-are-still-around/#findComment-534454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 9, 20177 yr comment_534457 Here is HLS30-00126. No Evap Vac switch or line: Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/58919-wonder-how-many-hlsun-30-are-still-around/#findComment-534457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 9, 20177 yr comment_534474 3798 has no "flow guide valve" or evap line. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/58919-wonder-how-many-hlsun-30-are-still-around/#findComment-534474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 10, 20177 yr comment_534485 3 hours ago, zKars said: 3798 has no "flow guide valve" or evap line. My car has a similar but lower VIN than yours, but it does have the valve and the hard line. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/58919-wonder-how-many-hlsun-30-are-still-around/#findComment-534485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 10, 20177 yr comment_534493 Hi For vehicles manufactured in 1969 and early 1970, California CARB was the only requirement for gasoline vapor recovery on cars sold in California. Of course at that time California was the single largest market for Datsun in the USA as well. The Federal EPA was expected to follow California's lead in this area - and it did sometime the following year (1970). So from a production perspective it made sense to make gasoline vapor recovery standard equipment on all Datsun 240Z's at some point. Nonetheless, any 240Z's not equipped with gasoline vapor recovery systems - could have been legally sold in States outside California. Interesting side note: The early 1970 Factory Service Manual - Chassis and Body - On page FE-4, Figure FE-9 (a picture of the fuel tank) is noted: "Fuel Tank For California" - and is shown with the Evap. Recovery System. "A reservoir as shown in FIG FE-9 is provided so as to relief expansion and bubbles due to heating (for California, USA). The Service Manual only identified HLS30-U as being for USA/Canada. FWIW, Carl B. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/58919-wonder-how-many-hlsun-30-are-still-around/#findComment-534493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 10, 20177 yr Author comment_534499 Thanks Carl, i would add Ontario, Canada to that statement as I understand they got the VRS even in 1970 but the rest of Canada did not follow suit until the 1971 model. Edited November 10, 20177 yr by 240dkw Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/58919-wonder-how-many-hlsun-30-are-still-around/#findComment-534499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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