Car wont turn over

[siteunseen]

You need a rope and another vehicle, you won't be able to actually push start it like a motorcycle.  If you have an Advance Auto around, buy the starter online with a 30% off coupon code from retailmenot.com.  I bought one a few years ago for $20.

Good luck.

[Erick]

Hey guys, sorry for no updates. And thank you guys so much for the help, so I've got news good ones too. So I changed my gas pump and try to start and it...and BAM my Z finally started i was stocked and it didn't turn off and I can turn it back on still, but there are times were it makes a grinding noise when I try to start it up again. So could that be a flywheel problem ? Also my gas pedal is very delicate if I rev my car and take my foot of the pedal my car will still keep reving up and I would have to pull the gas pedal up so it can stay idle does anyone have a clue what that can be?

[Mark Maras]

The starter grinding can be worn teeth on the starter or flywheel. Most common is a weak solenoid often caused by a voltage drop to it. You shouldn't have to turn the engine much (just a couple of degrees) to align the starter teeth with the flywheel. Throttle problem could be lack of return spring(s) (gas pedal and engine), or lack of lube. What did you mean when you said "it" wouldn't turn off? Starter? Engine?

[siteunseen]

Lube up the linkage points, pedal to the rod on the intake.  If it's no better add a spring.  I put one on my hood latch base to the linkage coming through the firewall from the pedal when I first bought it.  It could also be the dash pot plunger holding the rpms.

Could be the starter too.  If it doesn't get quiter pull the starter off and take to a parts store for testing.  While you have it off pull the spark plugs and put in gear, roll it and shine a light where the starters nose meets the flywheel.  Look for damaged teeth.  Could be the starter isn't mounted properly, at an unhappy angle.  Seems like I've read where people have to use shims to get them in line with the flywheel.

Glad you got it going. 

[Mark Maras]

 I've never experienced shimming an old style round mount starter. Just the newer flat mount ones that Chevy uses. I agree with Cliff. Pull the starter inspect the flywheel teeth, check the starter and be sure that the starter solenoid is getting full voltage.

[sweatybetty]

iirc, i bought a new/rebuilt starter for el-cheapo

https://www.autozone.com/batteries-starting-and-charging/starter?filterByKeyWord=240z+starter&fromString=search&isIgnoreVehicle=false&model=true&newYmme=true

 

[Mark Maras]

20 minutes ago, sweatybetty said:

iirc, i bought a new/rebuilt starter for el-cheapo

https://www.autozone.com/batteries-starting-and-charging/starter?filterByKeyWord=240z+starter&fromString=search&isIgnoreVehicle=false&model=true&newYmme=true

 

 That looks familiar. My son and I installed a new clutch in his 81 RX7. Interesting time removing the pilot bearing. Puller wouldn't grip the bearing. Ended up using bread, a socket and extension. I'll never buy another pilot bearing puller again.

[siteunseen]

1 hour ago, Mark Maras said:

 That looks familiar. My son and I installed a new clutch in his 81 RX7. Interesting time removing the pilot bearing. Puller wouldn't grip the bearing. Ended up using bread, a socket and extension. I'll never buy another pilot bearing puller again.

I got mine out by grinding a groove with a Dremel then putting a screw with the head sticking out of my slide dent puller. Put the screw head in the groove and slid the weight back a couple of times, came right out.

I have a smaller lighter starter from a ZX? from a project 240 I bought. The How to Modify book reccomends it because of the weight difference I suppose.  It is a funny mount, flatter and the solenoid is on the side instead of the top.  I believes that's the one I read might need shims?  It's on my shelf of new but not yet used parts.  That shelf is getting full to. I buy stuff and realize I don't have a race car.  I need to use most of the pages to wipe my arse.  Way too many cops around here for a fast car.  Those days are gone but the river, now that's where I can hurt myself. Water patrol boats top out about 50 mph. 

 

Edited December 7, 2017 by siteunseen