February 15, 20187 yr comment_542422 this is what I did, best to use analog meter, I setup a simple voltage divider using some 9v batteries. Hopes its just a ground wire, but if you are still getting no where after checking that, you could get all 3 out on the bench and do a test like this. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/59547-runs-rich-wont-rev-past-2-3k/?&page=2#findComment-542422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 15, 20187 yr Author comment_542423 Ill do that tonight then, gonna have to find an analog one. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/59547-runs-rich-wont-rev-past-2-3k/?&page=2#findComment-542423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 15, 20187 yr comment_542424 it helps, not required. just go slow if you have digital. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/59547-runs-rich-wont-rev-past-2-3k/?&page=2#findComment-542424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 15, 20187 yr comment_542425 maybe something will ring a bell here? http://atlanticz.ca/zclub/techtips/afm/index.html Some other stuff. thanks @240260280 http://atlanticz.ca/zclub/techtips/EFI&fuel.htm Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/59547-runs-rich-wont-rev-past-2-3k/?&page=2#findComment-542425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 15, 20187 yr Author comment_542427 I have read over that a few times and tried moving the flap by hand but it doesn't seem to make a difference. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/59547-runs-rich-wont-rev-past-2-3k/?&page=2#findComment-542427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 15, 20187 yr comment_542429 If the EFI system checks OK and fuel pressure is OK then it is possible the injectors may have been swapped with larger ones from a turbo for example. Please try to read any numbers on the injectors and report back. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/59547-runs-rich-wont-rev-past-2-3k/?&page=2#findComment-542429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 15, 20187 yr Author comment_542430 I thought about that once, I check the numbers but had a hard time finding any information. Ill get those numbers again and put them here Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/59547-runs-rich-wont-rev-past-2-3k/?&page=2#findComment-542430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 15, 20187 yr comment_542431 For rev limiting, I have witnessed three causes: 1. The EFI system has a false Idle signal from the TVS due to a short. The ECU thinks that the foot is off the pedal and will not flow gas above ~2800rpm 2. The ignition system has a fault. I'm my case, a points distributor was the cause. The power died under load at high rpms as if there was a fuel cut-off. 3. Weak fuel pressure. Weak fuel pressure is not an issue with no load (revving in neutral) but under load on the road, there will not be sufficient fuel to power the car beyond a certain rpm X load point. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/59547-runs-rich-wont-rev-past-2-3k/?&page=2#findComment-542431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 15, 20187 yr comment_542432 3 minutes ago, 240260280 said: 3. Weak fuel pressure. Weak fuel pressure is not an issue with no load (revving in neutral) but under load on the road, there will not be sufficient fuel to power the car beyond a certain rpm X load point. And to check that put your fuel gauge on a hose and zip tie it to the driver's wiper arm. Go for a drive and watch it fall or hopefully stay the same. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/59547-runs-rich-wont-rev-past-2-3k/?&page=2#findComment-542432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 15, 20187 yr Author comment_542434 I wouldn't think it would be the first or third as it is running rich and blowing black smoke when I get to the limit. Would a 76 have a similar distributor issue? I'm getting plenty hot spark when cracking but haven't tried testing it at higher rpm. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/59547-runs-rich-wont-rev-past-2-3k/?&page=2#findComment-542434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 15, 20187 yr comment_542435 1 hour ago, 240DL? said: Is it possible to check simply with resistance if it is functioning correctly? I see a lot of "correct"s and "good"s and questions that should be clear if you were in the right place of the FSM or Guide for testing. The only numbers you've shown are a couple of RPM values. The AFM resistance values are in the FSM. Easy to measure, even from the ECU connector. The way the FSM is set up is that if the continuity/no continuity super-quick tests don't find a problem then you go to the more time-consuming tests of actually getting resistance numbers. This thread is starting just like about 20 others over the last few years. No offense, everybody tries to find the quick "bad part" solution. Post as many numbers as you can measure, and include the AFM and ECU part numbers. Two kind of hidden ways to run really rich are a hole in the FPR diaphragm or a bad ECU. A bad ignition module can also send too many pulses to the ECU while failing. Usually that will also show up on the tachometer with funky needle movement. And, to make things possibly worse, if it ran bad when you got it then the PO probably messed with things to try to fix it. A common mistake is to adjust the AFM vane position. You might have to go through and reset almost everything. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/59547-runs-rich-wont-rev-past-2-3k/?&page=2#findComment-542435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 15, 20187 yr Author comment_542436 My apologies for being unclear about the situation, I just got back to the car, I have spent a lot of time on it a while ago but not recently. I will go threw all the continuity and resistance checks here and post all the numbers before guessing again. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/59547-runs-rich-wont-rev-past-2-3k/?&page=2#findComment-542436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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