Posted March 5, 20187 yr comment_543773 OK, I used my Float Sync tool and a color tune spark plug to set up my SU's today. All went relatively well, but having the advantage of seeing what is going on in the float bowl with the Float Sync caused me to have a question. When off of idle, (hand race engine), the front float bowl level is dropping, the rear is stable. Under load I believe the car will lack fuel in the font carburetor. My first thought is that the fuel pump is not pumping enough volume for both carbs. I am sure someone has a better grasp on this and understands why the back carb would get the fuel it needs as apposed to the front. See Video. IMG_0746.MOV Edited March 5, 20187 yr by JLPurcell Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/59636-calling-all-su-experts/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 5, 20187 yr comment_543775 My first guess is the filter in the banjo fitting. It's the "last chance" filter where the fuel line enters the float bowl. If that's OK, I'd suggest a fuel pump pressure and volume test. Where is the fuel level compared the the nozzle tops and how many turns down are the mixture screws? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/59636-calling-all-su-experts/#findComment-543775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 5, 20187 yr Author comment_543779 On 3/5/2018 at 1:10 AM, Mark Maras said: My first guess is the filter in the banjo fitting. It's the "last chance" filter where the fuel line enters the float bowl. If that's OK, I'd suggest a fuel pump pressure and volume test. Where is the fuel level compared the the nozzle tops and how many turns down are the mixture screws? Mark, I did not think about the banjo fitting. I will check that tomorrow. The float levels is set in accordance to the guide that comes with the float sync. 14mm above the body of that tool. It may be 1mm low. The mixture screws are approximately 3.5 turns down. This is where the idle is stable with carbs synced and the color tune has a nice blue with just a slight yellow tone burn in the chamber. The real test will be under load. Thanks for your continued help with this. JLP Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/59636-calling-all-su-experts/#findComment-543779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 5, 20187 yr comment_543787 Banjo filter is a good idea. Are both float bowl vent nipples hanging open to atmosphere? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/59636-calling-all-su-experts/#findComment-543787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 5, 20187 yr Author comment_543789 On 3/5/2018 at 3:17 AM, Captain Obvious said: Banjo filter is a good idea. Are both float bowl vent nipples hanging open to atmosphere? Yes they are. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/59636-calling-all-su-experts/#findComment-543789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 5, 20187 yr comment_543795 Float Sync tool? Glass tubes ? Dont let gas sit in them too long or the expoxy gums up that holds the tubes and block the readings- ask me how I know Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/59636-calling-all-su-experts/#findComment-543795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 5, 20187 yr comment_543801 Very nice to see real world dynamics of the fuel flow! BIG THANKS! Sorry it is for a problem though. Is this the 72 with the stepped float heights? Maybe try swapping needle valves between front and back bowls to see if problem moves? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/59636-calling-all-su-experts/#findComment-543801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 5, 20187 yr Author comment_543802 On 3/5/2018 at 11:36 AM, 240260280 said: Very nice to see real world dynamics of the fuel flow! BIG THANKS! Sorry it is for a problem though. Is this the 72 with the stepped float heights? Maybe try swapping needle valves between front and back bowls to see if problem moves? ;Once, I take a look at the banjo fitting filter, if that does not fix the problem I will order new needle valves and swap them out. Thanks JLP Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/59636-calling-all-su-experts/#findComment-543802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 5, 20187 yr comment_543803 On 3/5/2018 at 1:10 AM, Mark Maras said: My first guess is the filter in the banjo fitting. It's the "last chance" filter where the fuel line enters the float bowl. If that's OK, I'd suggest a fuel pump pressure and volume test. Where is the fuel level compared the the nozzle tops and how many turns down are the mixture screws? I agree with Mark.....if you are getting continuous flow to rear carb, the only other variable is a restriction in the route from the fuel rail to the carb. Just had a friend that had the same problem.....new filter in banjo fitting solved the problem. He had just had his gas tank lined at a radiator shop. The red (twizzler looking) liner was dissolving and building up in his filter. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/59636-calling-all-su-experts/#findComment-543803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 6, 20187 yr Author comment_543875 On 3/5/2018 at 11:55 AM, Diseazd said: I agree with Mark.....if you are getting continuous flow to rear carb, the only other variable is a restriction in the route from the fuel rail to the carb. Just had a friend that had the same problem.....new filter in banjo fitting solved the problem. He had just had his gas tank lined at a radiator shop. The red (twizzler looking) liner was dissolving and building up in his filter. I pulled the banjo fitting tonight and the filter is clean. I will order a set for future use but that is not the problem. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/59636-calling-all-su-experts/#findComment-543875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 6, 20187 yr comment_543877 Am I correct about the type sync tool you are using? I was serious about the defect with that tool. You will get erroneous readings . It’s a great tool if it works correctly , but too much time in fuel makes it defectives - at least the one I used Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/59636-calling-all-su-experts/#findComment-543877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 6, 20187 yr Author comment_543878 I have a couple of Uni-sync tools. I always switch between the two to make sure I am getting good flow readings. One is new and the others I have had for over 40 years. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/59636-calling-all-su-experts/#findComment-543878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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