240Z Window woes

[loudoun]

11 minutes ago, Patcon said:

@grannyknot

Thanks Patcon.  Maybe my search skills are poor, but I cannot find the post.

 

[Patcon]

54 minutes ago, loudoun said:

Thanks Patcon.  Maybe my search skills are poor, but I cannot find the post.

 

I have found the embedded search engine is subpar to using google, unfortunately

[Zed Head]

2 hours ago, loudoun said:

The rollers are intact, but the backing plastic piece behind them are either broken or non existent.  I pulled regulators from some of my parts cars and same deal.  Any ideas?

What do you mean by "backing plastic piece"?

Most of the fixes end up using obscure local hardware store parts, or things from the internet, like tarp grommets.  I think that you'll need to use your own ingenuity.  But some pictures of what you're working with would help us generate ideas.

[grannyknot]

3 hours ago, loudoun said:

I think it was grannyknot, but I cannot find it.

 

Well that took some searching, it was actually @240Ziggy that came up with the idea, I just jumped on the bandwagon, here it is,

 

[tzagi1]

Search for "tarp grommets" at walmart's web site....6 for less then $3, they will need minor sanding but do work great.

[Zed Head]

Just had a thought about replacing that part - SteelStik epoxy.  You can shape it in to the desired form and it will harden in place.   It's like putty and won't run.  If you don't want to grind the pin out then replace it.  Do a test run to get a feel for how fast it sets up.  Wear gloves.

https://www.jbweld.com/products/steelstik-epoxy-putty-stick

[loudoun]

On ‎6‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 4:32 PM, Zed Head said:

What do you mean by "backing plastic piece"?

Most of the fixes end up using obscure local hardware store parts, or things from the internet, like tarp grommets.  I think that you'll need to use your own ingenuity.  But some pictures of what you're working with would help us generate ideas.

Zed Head.  Here you go. I agree, pics help.  The screwdriver is pointing to it. 

[Zed Head]

That's a good one right?  Your problem is a broken or missing one?

That part is really just a "location" or spacing device.  There are probably many ways to make something to do the job.  Something like a split collar clamping device.  In my case, the roller itself broke apart.  So I had to remove the shaft and figure something out.  It's the shaft removal and replacement that is difficult.  I don't have a welder.

Here are some examples of split collars.  Metal would probably be "scrapy" in action.  Plastic would be best.

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=node%3D16411921&field-keywords=split

https://www.grainger.com/category/shaft-collars/shaft-couplings-collars-and-universal-joints/power-transmission/ecatalog/N-1d90?refineSearchString=split&searchString=Shaft%2BCollars&ts_optout=true#nav=%2Fcategory%2Fshaft-collars%2Fshaft-couplings-collars-and-universal-joints%2Fpower-transmission%2Fecatalog%2FN-1d90Z1yyta09%2FNtt-split%3Fsst%3DAll%26ts_optout%3Dtrue

http://shaft-collars-couplings.staffordmfg.com/viewitems/standard-round-bore-shaft-collars/two-piece-split-clamp-type-shaft-collars

[Zed Head]

You should inspect that roller closely while it's out.  Maybe do the whole rebuild on the assembly.

[loudoun]

2 minutes ago, Zed Head said:

That's a good one right?  Your problem is a broken or missing one?

That part is really just a "location" or spacing device.  There are probably many ways to make something to do the job.  Something like a split collar clamping device.  In my case, the roller itself broke apart.  So I had to remove the shaft and figure something out.  It's the shaft removal and replacement that is difficult.  I don't have a welder.

Here are some examples of split collars.  Metal would probably be "scrapy" in action.  Plastic would be best.

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=node%3D16411921&field-keywords=split

https://www.grainger.com/category/shaft-collars/shaft-couplings-collars-and-universal-joints/power-transmission/ecatalog/N-1d90?refineSearchString=split&searchString=Shaft%2BCollars&ts_optout=true#nav=%2Fcategory%2Fshaft-collars%2Fshaft-couplings-collars-and-universal-joints%2Fpower-transmission%2Fecatalog%2FN-1d90Z1yyta09%2FNtt-split%3Fsst%3DAll%26ts_optout%3Dtrue

http://shaft-collars-couplings.staffordmfg.com/viewitems/standard-round-bore-shaft-collars/two-piece-split-clamp-type-shaft-collars

That is one from a spare that I had off a parts car.  Thanks for the links I will take a look.  I did have to put the door back together for a car show.  I robbed the window roller off another car, as it was non-existent on the one I was working on.  That seems to have done the trick for now.

 

 

[joe newsom]

Zed is there a source for parts to complete rebuild the assembly ?

 

 

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[Zed Head]

I don't think so.  I meant to collect all of the tricks we've described in these threads, to replace the backing guide piece that broke on yours and others, and the roller itself, that broke on mine.