July 13, 20186 yr Author comment_552963 I just did a search and found you explaining the 123ignition. Pretty neat system. Looking into that now. I'll look through that thread as well. Thank you sir. Chris Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/60366-stalling-issueunder-throttle/?&page=2#findComment-552963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 14, 20186 yr Author comment_553033 Starting tinkering. Pulled the wires from the plugs and 2&3 have no change when pulled. All other drop idle significantly. Pulled all 1 at a time. Switch wire locations? I am matching up wires from cap. ? I plan to replace the fireball system with something newer and current then maybe the 123 after I figure this out. Thanks again, Chris Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/60366-stalling-issueunder-throttle/?&page=2#findComment-553033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 14, 20186 yr comment_553035 I'm most likely totally off base here but #1,2 and 3 runoff the front carb. May be a fuel problem. I would pull those plugs one at a time a check their spark. Good luck. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/60366-stalling-issueunder-throttle/?&page=2#findComment-553035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 18, 20186 yr Author comment_553368 Spark plug Pictures from this past weekend. I have some tools arriving this week to do test on various items. Also something I should have done before jumping to the modification pages... the plugs are less then 2 months old. Any more insight is greatly appreciated. Chris Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/60366-stalling-issueunder-throttle/?&page=2#findComment-553368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 18, 20186 yr comment_553376 Front carb is leaner than rear carb from the plugs. Rear carbs look better. You can lower the front jet 1/4 turn to balance the fuel better. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/60366-stalling-issueunder-throttle/?&page=2#findComment-553376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 19, 20186 yr Author comment_553483 Using the Uni-syn and the front carb has little to no air pulling when at 2k. The rear is working. It is rich but working. What would cause the front carb to not be "working" or is this normal. Also where should the distributor be set at advance wise? Reading how to tune Su carbs now... Chris Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/60366-stalling-issueunder-throttle/?&page=2#findComment-553483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 19, 20186 yr comment_553492 Sounds like the carbs are out of balance. Any early Z shop manual will tell you how to balance them. It's not difficult. I'd start with resetting the nozzles 2 1/2 turns down and then going thru the balance procedure. Dist. is usually set at around 10 degrees advance. There is a good thread about SU tuning. Google "Quick and dirty SU tuning. Edited July 19, 20186 yr by Mark Maras Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/60366-stalling-issueunder-throttle/?&page=2#findComment-553492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 19, 20186 yr comment_553493 Read the chapter in the FSM about the carbs. Or just Google SU's. They're not "normal", they use intake vacuum to raise a piston which then allows air flow. What you see on the gauge is the vacuum on one side of the carb. A higher number actually means less flow. You might have a stuck piston. They also use oil to damp the movement of the piston. They're odd mechanisms! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/60366-stalling-issueunder-throttle/?&page=2#findComment-553493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 19, 20186 yr comment_553495 Step 1. Idle Adjustment: https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50683-need-advice-on-properly-tuning-both-hitachi-su-carbs/?tab=comments#comment-461005 Step 2. Off-Idle Adjustment: https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/50683-need-advice-on-properly-tuning-both-hitachi-su-carbs/?tab=comments#comment-461047 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/60366-stalling-issueunder-throttle/?&page=2#findComment-553495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 20, 20186 yr comment_553500 I believe you will need to get a front mounted airflow measurement tool, measuring from where you are is after the balance tube.But I could be wrong, I would want someone else to double triple confirm. Was there a filter in the engine compartment? There are two additional filters at the float chamber of the SU carb, for me it was throwing off my float measurements, and causing my stalling issues, after cleaning them out, I was able to get a good tune.Sent from my iPhone using Classic Zcar Club mobile Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/60366-stalling-issueunder-throttle/?&page=2#findComment-553500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 20, 20186 yr comment_553507 Agree with what's been said above. A simple test would be to raise both pistons and see if they fall at the same rate, pretty slow fall if the damper oil is right. They should make their "clunk" sound at the same time when they hit the bottom. You need one of these if you have dual carbs, makes things so much easier. https://www.amazon.com/Latest-Rage-Deluxe-Carburetor-Airflow/dp/B00CMC57R0/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1532074358&sr=8-4-fkmr0&keywords=unisyn+carb Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/60366-stalling-issueunder-throttle/?&page=2#findComment-553507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 20, 20186 yr comment_553534 Here's another good SU link. http://sucarb.co.uk/technical-su-carburetters Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/60366-stalling-issueunder-throttle/?&page=2#findComment-553534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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