Finally Taking the Plunge - EFI

[zKars]

Well I decided to jump into the EFI game with both feet.

Here is what changed this "old school" boy's mind. 

Weber look-a-like throttle bodies with built in injectors and TPS.  Jenvey Heritage Throttle bodies is what they go by. 

I get the old look I can't seem to do without, with all the modern advantages of EFI.

You may notice that there are only two, and this is a Z forum, but as most of you know there is 510 lady in my life that I'm currently enfatuated with. I can always buy another one if I ever come to my senses.

 These are 45mm with 350cc/hr injectors. Should do.

 

https://www.onesixindustries.com/products

Edited August 16, 2018 by zKars

[zKars]

On the other side of the motor I plan to tuck a set of LS Coil-on-plug coils and time it all with a OneSix Industries new distributor replacement 'Crank Angle Sensor ' that has a pair of trigger wheels for full sequential injection. No holes barred, this thing is going modern. I may have to glue a dizzy cap on it to keep the old look going. Bad enough to do COP on the plug side.

https://www.onesixindustries.com/products

One might this a bit pricey, but once again the Canadian - Aussie connection wins as it is $400 AUD, which is actually just under par with CAD, so I win! 

Any of you yanks can cash in even better with your 35% advantage. 

 

Edited August 16, 2018 by zKars

[zKars]

The EMS is a bit up in the air. Mega Squirt is good, but there are others that do this well as well. Most of local support (other fools who have done this before) have used MegaSquirt, so that's the likely choice. 

SDS is based in Calgary. They are tempting too, but not as versatile.

My friend with dyno that will tune it is a Haltech expert, so that may win. We'll see.

[madkaw]

EFI ?

[zKars]

Knowing my luck, I'll STILL have vapor lock...

[Patcon]

Be sure and post up lots of pics and info! That way I can crib off of you on Cody's upcoming build. ? His motor only has so many miles left in it...

[Diseazd]

This is going to be a fun project to watch! Way to go modern Jim.

Edited August 16, 2018 by Diseazd

[zKars]

This will be a discovery trip for all of us. I'll keep the thread populated as best I can.

EFI fuel supply is the next topic.  Many options are available, but there are two main competitors.

1. External swirl pot with internal EFI pressure pump, fed by exisiting low pressure carb pump. Two pumps, lots of connections, extra can to mount and hide, not ideal.  Something like this.  http://www.burtonpower.com/efi-fuel-pump-and-swirl-pot-assembly-wfp600.html

2. Install an Internal hi pressure EFI pump. Quiet, cool running, just one pump, but need to add some baffling or swirl pot and of course cut up a good tank. Definitely the cheapest solution but requires the tank be modified. Have lots of tanks to hack up. Will also install modern fuel level sender at the same time. TanksInc.com has a good option. http://www.tanksinc.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=84/mode=prod/prd84.htm

Holley just came out with a fuel tank "mat' (HydraMat) that covers the bottom of the tank and soaks up fuel like a sponge. Any fuel in the tank is soaked up and available to the pump. The ultimate in anti-slosh, anti-starvation device. Not cheap, but an excellent solution for putting efi pumps in non-or minimally baffled tanks.  https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/hydramat/hydramats/

[Patcon]

Both the intake pump by tanks inc and the Holley blanket are really cool. The Holley is really neat in that the whole thing doesn't need to be submerged. The Holley video was fascinating although it sounds like the GPM volume of the fuel pump can over come the surface tension of the fuel blanket if it's not sized properly. Not cheap but neat tech!

[wheee!]

Way to go Jim! I am very excited to see this install. I like the crank angle sensor idea... very clean.

[Chickenman]

Jim, although I tune a lot of MS systems. I would seriously suggest you take a good hard look at the Haltech Elite 750. Specifically designed for 6 cylinder motors with 6 Logic coil drivers and 6 Injector drivers capable of driving high or low impedance injectors.

 You can have Full sequential injection with Direct Fire COP with that Fancy Smancy dizzy thingy. 

 Note: The advertising makes it look like it can only drive low impedance injectors. ( I found that very strange ) , but when you look at the full specs you can see that it also will drive High impedance injectors. That makes more sense, as Hi-Z injectors draw much less current than Low-Z injectors.

Overview of Elire 750:

https://www.haltech.com/overview-elite-750/

Full specs:

HT-150600_PS.pdf

 

 

Edited August 16, 2018 by Chickenman

[Chickenman]

PS: I can also Remote Tune Haltech.