Richard McDonel Posted March 16, 2020 Share #37 Posted March 16, 2020 I'm coming a bit late into this discussion. Do you have in-ground styrofoam insulation on your foundation, and hopefully beneath the floor slab? I'm in a colder climate than you, but I know you still get genuine winter. My garage is only 22 by 24 feet, and the walls and ceiling are well insulated. I have a forced air furnace. The garage is quite old, and I'm certain there is no insulation on the foundation or beneath the floor. When the furnace kicks in it gets quite comfy, but the minute in shuts off, you can feel the cold just seeping in through the floor. By mid-December It's probably solid frost beneath the concrete. A friend of mine went with in-floor hot-water heating when he built his garage a few years ago. The hot water comes from a domestic h.w. tank, although he understands that wouldn't pass building code today - must have a proper boiler. In any case once he turns the heat up, the room never gets cold. But your floor is already laid, so my free advice is of no use, unless you wanted to go to the expense of laying a second concrete slab. That is a lovely property you have. Congrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240260280 Posted March 16, 2020 Share #38 Posted March 16, 2020 A few more details for in-floor radiant: 2" of foam under slab thermal break between wall and slab A skirt of 4X8 2" insulation flat 1' under ground around outer perimeter of the walls, helps reduce heat loss and prevents frost heave on unheated slabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Rogan Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share #39 Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Richard McDonel said: I'm coming a bit late into this discussion. Do you have in-ground styrofoam insulation on your foundation, and hopefully beneath the floor slab? I'm in a colder climate than you, but I know you still get genuine winter. My garage is only 22 by 24 feet, and the walls and ceiling are well insulated. I have a forced air furnace. The garage is quite old, and I'm certain there is no insulation on the foundation or beneath the floor. When the furnace kicks in it gets quite comfy, but the minute in shuts off, you can feel the cold just seeping in through the floor. By mid-December It's probably solid frost beneath the concrete. A friend of mine went with in-floor hot-water heating when he built his garage a few years ago. The hot water comes from a domestic h.w. tank, although he understands that wouldn't pass building code today - must have a proper boiler. In any case once he turns the heat up, the room never gets cold. But your floor is already laid, so my free advice is of no use, unless you wanted to go to the expense of laying a second concrete slab. That is a lovely property you have. Congrats. As you said, it is too late for this project, as the floor was already laid before I acquired the place. The ceiling contractor finally got started on Friday. They did almost half the ceiling in one day. I am hoping they will have the rest completed by the end of this week. I took advantage of having their scaffolding in the barn, and installed all the lights in the finished area on Saturday. I was hoping to have the project done before winter, but it is coming together now. It was the ceiling that was slowing me down. I will have a update once the ceiling is done. Edited March 16, 2020 by Marty Rogan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorman7 Posted March 16, 2020 Share #40 Posted March 16, 2020 Boy, that garage is just absolutely fabulous, very jealous here. Thought I would share a couple pictures of my future garage here. Wife and I bought a place in Boise Idaho and are renting it out until we are ready to retire which is probably about a year and a half from now. Garage has 1500 sq-ft of space and a large RV section. Pretty sure I can fit all of my cars in here. Our Jeep Grand Cherokee looks kind of small in there. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Rogan Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share #41 Posted March 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, motorman7 said: Boy, that garage is just absolutely fabulous, very jealous here. Thought I would share a couple pictures of my future garage here. Wife and I bought a place in Boise Idaho and are renting it out until we are ready to retire which is probably about a year and a half from now. Garage has 1500 sq-ft of space and a large RV section. Pretty sure I can fit all of my cars in here. Our Jeep Grand Cherokee looks kind of small in there. 1500' is a really good size garage. You will be able to fit a lot of stuff in there. A friend of mine has a 1550" hanger and I am impressed with the amount of stuff he can cram in there. I am retiring in about 10 months myself. I can't wait to have time to do the things I really want to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorman7 Posted March 16, 2020 Share #42 Posted March 16, 2020 Yes, I am thinking that I can even get a lift in their. That would be nice. Also looking very forward to retirement. So much to do out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Rogan Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share #43 Posted March 16, 2020 2 hours ago, motorman7 said: Yes, I am thinking that I can even get a lift in their. That would be nice. Also looking very forward to retirement. So much to do out there. How high are your ceilings? They are making a lot of low profile lifts now that can fit in most garages. However the higher you can lift the car, the better. Right now, I am considering a 2-post BendPak 7,000lb lift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorman7 Posted March 16, 2020 Share #44 Posted March 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Marty Rogan said: How high are your ceilings? I am guessing at least 12 feet high. There is a lot of empty space up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Rogan Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share #45 Posted March 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, motorman7 said: I am guessing at least 12 feet high. There is a lot of empty space up there. That's what I have. You should be in pretty good shape, with several options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marty Rogan Posted March 23, 2020 Author Popular Post Share #46 Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) Well, the ceiling and insulation are finally done. I have been trying to get that scheduled since September. The guys are a little frustrating, but they do really nice work. Here are a few pictures, so you can be the judge. Over the weekend, I was able to get the rest of the lights installed and working. I have 24 LED lights at 3810 lumens each. The lighting is just about perfect. It is really bright and clear, with no shadows or dark spots anywhere in the shop. I am really happy with the way that turned out. My HVAC guy just had a double hernia operation, so he won't be able to put the heater in for 6-8 weeks. Another delay, but at least I can move forward with getting the place organized now. Edited March 23, 2020 by Marty Rogan 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grannyknot Posted March 23, 2020 Share #47 Posted March 23, 2020 That is awesome, what I wouldn't do for a truly flat floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteunseen Posted March 24, 2020 Share #48 Posted March 24, 2020 We've put vinyl siding on interior ceilings of rental houses but never metal roofing. Looks fantastic but I'd bet it was a real booger bear to install. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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