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10 hours ago, ConVerTT said:

Got the Franken - Fender backing plate welded up

Out of curiosity, are those butt welds throughout, or do I see a few plug welds in certain places?  If you did use plug welds for this repair, what's the rationale?

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11 hours ago, Namerow said:

Out of curiosity, are those butt welds throughout, or do I see a few plug welds in certain places?  If you did use plug welds for this repair, what's the rationale?

So ... there are a lot of opinions on butts, versus laps/flanges and plugs versus stitches.  I use all of them depending on the circumstance.  For example: I will almost always lap, plug stitch when attaching “Important” old metal to new metal (like floors to transmission tunnel, or frame rails to the inner fender patch).  

I used almost every type on the Franken Fender ....

 

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Been a busy (non-240z) week.  Finally got some fun time at the shop ....

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You can guess where this is going ...basically with all the work I’ve put in on this chassis, the following patch job was not going to be acceptable:

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Yeah I know no one will see it, but I’ll know....

@disperyon recently covered how to fab these so Just the highlights:

 Laying them out on 18 ga ...

 

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Drilled out with the Blair hole cutter (Amazon)...

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A new cryptocurrency?

 

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Dimple dies and the press ....

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Rolling the beads with Big Bertha ....

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And voila !

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I made a mistake marking the lower edge so it is a bit messed up.  Hopefully I can clean it up and finish the passenger side tomorrow.  

For those with a keen eye, yes they are deliberately a little different than factory.  I left the rear section boxed so I can run it straight off the edge of the floor kit (Zeddfindings)  to the rear wheel arch.  And at the front I left it a little longer so that it follows the edge of the Zeddfindings floors and left an unfinished piece to tie in to the firewall. 

Should look a lot better than the patch (even though no one will see it LOL)

 

 

 

 

 

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PS ...

Sometimes I hear people ask if the bead is really necessary?  (Probably because it isn’t that easy to roll a bead in 18 ga...)

Well, dimples but no bead ...

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Versus dimples with a bead ...

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Notice how much stiffer the panel is?  It can basically support its own weight while balancing on Bertha.  So, yes, the bead is important !

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