Posted January 29, 20196 yr comment_566891 I have had a plan to swap out the non-original motor in my car with the original, correct motor at some point and decided it was time to do it. I have been very happy with how the motor has been running, just want the number correct motor in it. First little problem I found was a broken cam oiler tube. This is very common and as I had checked the valve settings this spring and saw no problem then it is a fairly new problem. I have another oiler to replace it. The next problem was a bit disappointing. It seems I have developed a crack in my E30 non-emission exhaust manifold. The second photo shows the pattern of the exhaust on the back side of the heat shield. Now to decide if I try to weld it myself or pay someone to do it. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/61490-well-that-is-not-what-i-planned/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 29, 20196 yr comment_566893 Cast iron is notoriously hard to weld. Doable but it takes the correct approach and the right welding rods or wire Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/61490-well-that-is-not-what-i-planned/#findComment-566893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 29, 20196 yr comment_566894 and the right guy. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/61490-well-that-is-not-what-i-planned/#findComment-566894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 29, 20196 yr comment_566902 I read that Nissan cast manifolds are easier to weld as the alloy is more favourable than typical North American manifold alloys. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/61490-well-that-is-not-what-i-planned/#findComment-566902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 29, 20196 yr comment_566937 Shot peen it is another approach.. google it.. they do this also with cracked cast iron motorblocks.. an old english? way to repair things? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/61490-well-that-is-not-what-i-planned/#findComment-566937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 29, 20196 yr comment_566941 FYI: https://www.zcar.com/forum/10-70-83-tech-discussion-forum/116018-welding-manifold-safe.html https://forums.hybridz.org/topic/29099-welding-cast-iron-exhaust-manifolds/ Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/61490-well-that-is-not-what-i-planned/#findComment-566941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 29, 20196 yr comment_566950 Been there, done that. I drilled a hole in the ends of the crack, ground a vee in the crack, preheated with a butane torch, welded the crack with nickel rod (I've also used rod for stainless steel) and buried it in dry sand to let it cool slowly. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/61490-well-that-is-not-what-i-planned/#findComment-566950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 29, 20196 yr Author comment_566955 Mark: that is how most of the youtube's show it being done. Now to see if I have the wherewithal to give it a try. Edited January 29, 20196 yr by 240dkw Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/61490-well-that-is-not-what-i-planned/#findComment-566955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 29, 20196 yr comment_566962 This is not recommended but a good watch at 2X: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq0wfU4ZaKk Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/61490-well-that-is-not-what-i-planned/#findComment-566962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 29, 20196 yr comment_566968 I'd leave it. It looks small. It might even be sealing itself once the manifold gets hot. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/61490-well-that-is-not-what-i-planned/#findComment-566968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 22, 20196 yr Author comment_571606 So after a very skilled welder (not me) tried a few different options, what worked best was a brazed repair. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/61490-well-that-is-not-what-i-planned/#findComment-571606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 22, 20196 yr comment_571608 Nice. Didn't even have to remove it. I wonder if Mark meant braze when he said weld. They're similar. You can probably accidentally braze when you meant to weld also. Be interesting to see how it holds up. If you didn't pin the ends with drilled holes, as suggested, the crack might just continue to grow from the ends. But they'll be small cracks. https://www.machinedesign.com/fasteners/when-brazing-beats-welding https://www.lucasmilhaupt.com/EN/Brazing-Academy/Metal-Joining-Welding-vs.-Brazing-vs.-Soldering.htm Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/61490-well-that-is-not-what-i-planned/#findComment-571608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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