Internal rivets

[SteveJ]

1 hour ago, siteunseen said:

There's  some Ford inner fender that's close, a littile too large but they'll work. Ebay has 50 for about $10 or so? 

@gwri8 @SteveJ turned me onto them.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/50-FORD-FENDER-SHIELD-PUSH-TYPE-RETAINERS-OEM-387843-S/253285631459?epid=1189303991&hash=item3af90005e3:g:zaEAAMXQlrxRa9Hi:rk:4:pf:0

[AZDatsun]

I just picked these up but from a source in USA. Looks like they will fit

20 x For BMW E36 E39 5mm Hole Expanding Rivet Convertible Top, Fender Liner Clip

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F232864207393

 

 

Sent from my iPhone using Classic Zcar Club mobile

 

[SteveJ]

 

16 hours ago, ryanotown22 said:

I just picked these up but from a source in USA. Looks like they will fit

20 x For BMW E36 E39 5mm Hole Expanding Rivet Convertible Top, Fender Liner Clip

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F232864207393

 

 

Sent from my iPhone using Classic Zcar Club mobile

 

I measured what I believe to be a genuine Nissan panel rivet to compare to the measurements of the BMW part. The BMW part seems to be a little smaller. Those rivets may have issues with staying firmly in the anchor points.

The measurements for the Nissan part numbers are in blue.

 

Edited February 17, 2019 by SteveJ
Revised the measurements on the rivet.

[AZDatsun]

Wow thanks for doing those measurements


Sent from my iPhone using Classic Zcar Club mobile

[SteveJ]

So this got me looking on ebay. I found some panel rivet kits that have rivets in a similar size to the Z rivets.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/690Pcs-Car-Auto-Push-Pin-Rivet-Trim-Fastener-Clip-Panel-Body-Interior-Assortment/254096165616?hash=item3b294fcaf0:g:bREAAOSwh99cSstW:rk:2:pf:0

https://www.ebay.com/itm/690pcs-Car-Automotive-Push-Pins-Rivet-Trim-Clip-Panel-Body-Kits-Assortment/173657019916?epid=21026357388&hash=item286ec3d60c:g:0AAAAOSw6jJb-LiG:rk:3:pf:0

It looks like the Nissan part is designed for a 5mm hole, while the Ford (and many others on the market) appear to be designed for a 1/4 inch hole.

And to make a correction, it looks like the BMW rivet is likely the correct width. Depth may still be an issue. Let us know if they work.

[SteveJ]

And the genuine article from Courtesy Nissan: https://www.courtesyparts.com/oem-parts/nissan-rivet-plastic-black-90909e4100

And Nissan Parts Deal: https://www.nissanpartsdeal.com/parts/nissan-rivet-plastic~90909-e4100.html

Tasca: https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/nissan-rivet-plastic-black-90909e4100

Edited February 17, 2019 by SteveJ

[psdenno]

Harbor Freight has a 90 rivet set that contains 50 5mm rivets for a reasonable price.

https://www.harborfreight.com/90-piece-pom-rivet-assortment-67611.html

Dennis

[siteunseen]

19 hours ago, psdenno said:

Harbor Freight has a 90 rivet set that contains 50 5mm rivets for a reasonable price.

https://www.harborfreight.com/90-piece-pom-rivet-assortment-67611.html

Dennis

Harbor Freight in Palm Springs?

Probably one in Mar-a Lago for the "Beast" when it needs some Schina valve caps.

Edited February 17, 2019 by siteunseen

[siteunseen]

That was funny in my head a minute ago but not so much now.

I apologize Dennis. It's been raining all day here and I'm a little stir crazy from being inside. Sorry!

Harbor Freight is everywhere thank goodness.

[zKars]

Gave up on these rivets a long time ago. 

Now I install steel 10-24 riv-nuts and black oxide truss head machine screws.

https://www.mcmaster.com/94779A620

Never lose the pins, panels are held down tight. Works great for black interiors, I guess you'd be painting heads for other color interiors. Black on white or blue or tan would look cool though wouldn't it?

Yes you have to drill out each of the 5mm holes to whatever size the riv nuts need but once you do it you'll never baulk when you have to remove a panel to do any modifications (which we never do, right?)

[psdenno]

3 hours ago, siteunseen said:

That was funny in my head a minute ago but not so much now.

I apologize Dennis. It's been raining all day here and I'm a little stir crazy from being inside. Sorry!

Harbor Freight is everywhere thank goodness.

No apology needed.  And you're correct.  No harbor Freight in Palm Springs.  I have to leave town to shop at one.  I can relate to going stir crazy on a rainy day.  The rain here last Thursday wiped out the only three roads leading out of town to the interstate.  Nine inches of rain locally.  Stay dry!

Dennis

 

[AZDatsun]

So my review of the bmw rivets..I put in the rear quarter plastic panels only so far. They hold the panels tight and I believe they will work but I wish the head area was a larger circle the rivets I have are 10mm circles head and I think the Nissan ones are 13mm based on the specs a few posts up. I am going to use them for now and see if they work on all the panels. I have a 280z not sure if that matters though. I will update this when I put more panels in.


Sent from my iPhone using Classic Zcar Club mobile