Early 2+2's

[Zedrally]

Gav, Alfa & AlanT

Thanks for your help.

Have saved photos for later use.

When I start the ZGRS-30 project these will come in handy.

[HS30-H]

I tell you what, nothing would surprise me about these bloody cars any more. Anyone who tells you he knows all about them is delusional ( and yeah, that includes me ).

I just hope your mate wasn't referring to something that he can't back up with evidence. If that's the case, then we won't get anywhere with it.

As the owner of a genuine HS30-H ( had to get that in at some point didn't you Mr T.? ) I have made it my business to find out as much about them as possible. That includes lots of research about Nissan's interesting subcontracting for their FRP parts and the factories that made them. I have to say a sheetmetal G-nose would be a piece of art, and even just the lower panel would have to be made in several pieces and then butt-welded together. That I would like to see. Not impossible, but in the scheme of things, not very likely.

I went on a work-related visit to the Morgan factory last year. We were covering the Aero 8 for the magazine, and I was very interested to see and hear that they are forming many of the aluminium sheetmetal components using a subcontractor who vacuum-forms them. This is aerospace technology applied to cars. They said that they can form accurate double-curvature aluminium panels at low cost, and save much time over some poor old bugger slaving over an English Wheel for a whole day just knocking up one part. That's the 21st Century for you; Vacuum-formed aluminium Morgans.

I hope this turns out to be an ear blunder on your part, Mike. If this guy is the same guy who actually knew that there were two different models of G-nose, then I don't know what we'll do. He was the first non-Japanese bloke that I have ever heard about who knew that little chestnut. Hats off to him. I thought I had that one sewn up and was dead smug about it.............

Alan T.

[HS30-H]

Mike, that car is going to be loooooong.

Have you got garages that long in Australia?

Alan T.

[Alfadog]

I hadn't thought of that.. it'll be almost as long as a 300ZX! LOL !!

What's this about 2 models of big nosed Z's? And who is this mystery man?

[Zedrally]

Originally posted by HS30-H

I hope this turns out to be an ear blunder on your part, Mike. If this guy is the same guy who actually knew that there were two different models of G-nose, then I don't know what we'll do. He was the first non-Japanese bloke that I have ever heard about who knew that little chestnut. Hats off to him. I thought I had that one sewn up and was dead smug about it.............

Alan T.

I hope your lying down as you read this Alan,

It is the the one and the same guy.

Now, we both await his response as I would like to prove him wrong for once, but going on past performance his knowledge is, like yours, in depth on the subject.

This would be the only time that any disagreement has surfaced, so we await..........

[Zedrally]

Originally posted by Alfadog

What's this about 2 models of big nosed Z's? And who is this mystery man?

Oh damn, that info was in a PM and now it's public!

Oh well, look on the brighter side only I know who the one armed man is!

[HS30-H]

Alfa,

The guy is a friend of Mike's who astounded me by actually knowing that there were two different models of G-nose type ( early and late - just detail differences but very important to us penile extension experts ).

As I said, I thought I was the only person outside Japan who had a handle on that. Nobody else I've ever conferred with outside Japan seems to know bugger all about them. A kindred spirit. Hooray!

You lot are fresh as daisies, but I'm fit to kip. Time to climb the wooden hill to Bedfordshire again.

'Night all.

Alan T.

[Zedrally]

Originally posted by Alfadog

Gav, no, the page JUST before the Z432 article!!! I was amazed such images got published in magazines back then...

Awaiting Metal-Nose's reply...

Sorry, missed this earlier as I was bent over in fits of laughter at the thought of Alan blowing a fuse over the G-Nose.

OK, I don't have the mag, what have I missed?

[Alfadog]

nakee people ! weeehehehehe

waitingwaitingwaiting

[Zedrally]

Alan,

Bad news I fear.

My ears didn't hear things.

I'll PM you with details.

MN

[Gav240z]

First off Alan I found out about 2 different styles of Gnose through Kats. :classic: I'm puzzled though u say that so much of these cars history is misunderstood and ill informed yet you hold back information on the 2 variations??? Not having a go just find it a bit strange. (Yes it cool to know something others don't).

But I don't see a need to keep it stiched up from other Z enthusiasts :classic: .

As I understand the differences between the two are that one has air ducts to improve air flow. If you look in Kats gallery the red Zg has these.

You may also wanna check my gallery as I have a picture of a gold Zg that has been fitted with the gnose and I have noticed that the intake area is larger in area. Is this something that's been changed as an after market or custom proceedure or is it the other difference between the gnose's?

Yeah Alfa those Nakee people are funny but I have a few old car magazines and it seems that they were half porno. Well it's the 70's I guess (Sex , Drugs , Rockn'Roll). Oh and Zed's of course.

Zedrally - I think the Gnose will aid the look of the 2+2 it will even out the length of the car as the rear gained a bit of length it will look good if the front does aswell and yes it will be long but it would fit in my garage.

I often wonder how my 240z will be parking with a gnose between two cars. I would hate to damage one.

That's it I guess once again not having a poke Alan just a bit confused.

:ermm: :classic:

[Zedrally]

Alan, Alfa, Gav et al,

After reading Gav's response I felt it would be unfair to keep this private.

After all, I did raise the prospect in an earlier post, so in fairness I'll continue the discussion.

The one armed man replied to my question last night.

Out of respect he wishes to remain anonymus as he doesn't want to be inundated with e-mails, visitors, flames etc. he has asked to have his privacy repected.

His response is as follows:

I'm going to have to find some info amongst all my stuff here. As far

as I can recall the factory G Nose was metal and the reason I didn't buy

one of the last ones was a missing component - the filler panel between

the top nose section and the bonnet.

Lots of replica's in GRP were made here and the one that was at Frank's

was most likely made by a guy in the Dandy area who either went to jail

or skipped town. A most unreliable GRP person who went out of business,

as I recall in about 1992/3.

Then the only source was Qld and the guy doing them there had the same

profile. Eventually vanished, however I have one of his products in one

of the shells in the forest.

More to follow, when I get time,

I wouldn't go out re-writing history just yet, but if he said he just about brought one, that's pretty good for me.