Blue 1970 S30 on BAT

[Patcon]

That might be a bargain at 10 grand. Hard to tell how much rust is on it

[siteunseen]

That's the current bid with no BUY IT NOW price, anxious to see what it goes for.

[Captain Obvious]

Clearly (and not surprisingly), there are people viewing both this ClassicZ thread and that BAT sale. Right after I brought it up here, they started talking about the dash cap on BAT and they're all over it now. It's an easy issue to fix. Expensive, but simple.

"there has been some discussion of this car on a prominent Z car website, Classiczcars.com"

Woot. We're prominent!!   

So just to be clear... I don't see anywhere where the seller ever portrayed this car to be a "completely correct" example. So all the chatter from people (like me) about the things that are "wrong" is info for the next owner who wants to make it better. That car isn't done, but it's a beautiful starting point!

[motorman7]

I will have to walk away from the pissing contest about the dashes on this BAT thread.  Do not wish to hi-jack it and detract from the auction.  For those actually interested in the difference between the the two dashes, other than the huge price difference,  my thoughts are as follows.  

Personally, I believe the exterior plastic is exactly the same for both dashes, and both are installed the same way (vacuum forming).  Both have the exact same texture which does not match the OEM texture, but looks good.

The difference is the foam portion.   The Vintage Dash foam is molded and is a single piece.  Just Dashes removes the outer plastic skin and trims the foam where needed and then re-foams and shapes the dash.  I think the problem here is that there can be areas of the Just Dashes dash that are not replicated as well.  One of those areas is the center cluster where the three instruments are located.  You can actually see the difference in the pics below, Just Dashes dash is on orange car, Vintage on the blue.  The 'Deja Vu' Dash is from Just Dashes and was purchased, I think, before Vintage Dashes was in existence..or at least in it's infancy.   The Just Dashes 'scallops' are a bit fat and rounded, where as the Vintage Dashes 'scallops' are a bit more sleek.  I did a visual check with my '70 and feel that the Vintage Dash replicated this area much better than Just Dashes.  I did not check other areas of the dash.  Instrument fit is similar for both dashes. 

The one negative for Vintage Dashes is that they omit some of the flaps in the glove compartment area.  Not sure why that is as it would seem pretty easy to re-produce.  The flaps are not visible once the glove box is installed.

Anyway, just my opinion for those that are interested.  

Edited May 6, 2019 by motorman7

[26th-Z]

I stand by my previous post.

[motorman7]

17 minutes ago, 26th-Z said:

I stand by my previous post.

OUCH!...Sorry about that.  Back to minding my own business.

[Rodeo]

Motorman7 thanks for the explainer on dashes .... between the Blue car BaT thread, another recent BaT thread where the issue was discussed at length, and now your pics and explanation here, as a Z new owner and novice, I feel like I've gotten my Zdash education ? 

Now, about 2,500 other topics to master and I can hang with you guys!

I've got my car at Robert's shop right now (blue car seller), he is nearby from where I bought it, and am awaiting a proposal from the Z Guild for some refreshing/restoration before the car makes its way back east. Have spoken with Robert a bunch of times and seen his work (not on the blue car, that apparently was done before he got it), from what I have investigated I am in good hands with Robert and his shop.

[Jason240z]

There seems to be a little gang of people on there who act like bullies and get aggressive if others ask questions.  Hope BAT can sort this out with some fair moderation.

[26th-Z]

3 hours ago, motorman7 said:

OUCH!...Sorry about that.  Back to minding my own business.

That wasn't aimed at you!

[motorman7]

No prob.   Wasn't sure. Unfortunately, as I have gotten older, I have also become a bit more opinionated.  Not sure why that is.   Hair is graying also ☺️

 

[siteunseen]

I too suffer/benefit from deeper opinion. Graying and thinning hair, no benefits.

Edit: shampoo savings=more money for my cars.

Edited May 6, 2019 by siteunseen

[NVZEE]

Where these things so often go off the rails is the debate over “correctness” - as in, that shouldn’t be that way, period. There doesn’t appear to be anything in the description that claims it’s The One True Datsun, but rather a nicely maintained and presented example. This is a used car, nearly 50 years old. If there’s no misrepresentation of what it is or isn’t, the discussion about variations and changes can be interesting and educational. But the ego-polishers charge in with their absolutes and the whole process gets hijacked.