September 20, 20231 yr Popular Post comment_657306 Well, you don't want the original motor OR the original squirrel cage. That's the point. With the Kia blower both are an upgrade. I've never seen a Kiz squirrel cage quite like the one you've pictured though... The stock foam spacers have to be removed. I've done a few of these swaps since I did mine originally and I've ALWAYS had to trim the hole in the blower box to accept the Kia squirrel cage. If you do it properly, all the stock material can go back if anyone decides to return the blower to factory parts. Note that the mount holes on the blower may not line up exactly either, but they're close and plastic so it's easy to modify. As I've said a BUNCH of times: The stock duct system in the Z SUCKS! The Kia blower helps because it uses brute force to increase the airflow. (I also have the great fortune to have the Hayhurst designed Ultra Heaven Center Ductwork replacement, so I have incredible airflow, but he never produced these for sale...) When you're trimming the hole, do it a little at a time. You're going to tilt the squirrel cage in - NOT DROP IT IN STRAIGHT - so the trimmed hole doesn't need to be a perfect circle AND/OR the exact diameter of the Kia squirrel cage. I wish I'd made a YouTube video of how I did mine... Mine was the junkyard find all those many years ago, I daily drive Goldie in Phoenix Arizona (anyone sick of hearing me say that yet?), I demand that my A/C works at it's peak (Raised in Idaho, never got used to the Arizona heat) - the Kia Blower has never failed me. Edited September 20, 20231 yr by cgsheen1 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/62126-blower-motor-upgrade-not-a-honda/?&page=5#findComment-657306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 20, 20231 yr comment_657316 So I finally remembered to look at the VDO PM9196 that I have waiting to go into the 260Z. I already put one in the 240Z without trimming. I guess I'll find out if it's different with the 260Z. As I mentioned before, the holes need to be enlarged to line up better with the 240Z housing. The squirrel cage measures 5.75 inches in diameter. Side view Outside Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/62126-blower-motor-upgrade-not-a-honda/?&page=5#findComment-657316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 20, 20231 yr comment_657318 6 hours ago, cgsheen1 said: Well, you don't want the original motor OR the original squirrel cage. That's the point. With the Kia blower both are an upgrade. I've never seen a Kiz squirrel cage quite like the one you've pictured though... The stock foam spacers have to be removed. I've done a few of these swaps since I did mine originally and I've ALWAYS had to trim the hole in the blower box to accept the Kia squirrel cage. If you do it properly, all the stock material can go back if anyone decides to return the blower to factory parts. Note that the mount holes on the blower may not line up exactly either, but they're close and plastic so it's easy to modify. As I've said a BUNCH of times: The stock duct system in the Z SUCKS! The Kia blower helps because it uses brute force to increase the airflow. (I also have the great fortune to have the Hayhurst designed Ultra Heaven Center Ductwork replacement, so I have incredible airflow, but he never produced these for sale...) When you're trimming the hole, do it a little at a time. You're going to tilt the squirrel cage in - NOT DROP IT IN STRAIGHT - so the trimmed hole doesn't need to be a perfect circle AND/OR the exact diameter of the Kia squirrel cage. I wish I'd made a YouTube video of how I did mine... Mine was the junkyard find all those many years ago, I daily drive Goldie in Phoenix Arizona (anyone sick of hearing me say that yet?), I demand that my A/C works at it's peak (Raised in Idaho, never got used to the Arizona heat) - the Kia Blower has never failed me. OK - I 'll mark it up carefully & see how it goes. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/62126-blower-motor-upgrade-not-a-honda/?&page=5#findComment-657318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 20, 20231 yr comment_657319 19 minutes ago, SteveJ said: So I finally remembered to look at the VDO PM9196 that I have waiting to go into the 260Z. I already put one in the 240Z without trimming. I guess I'll find out if it's different with the 260Z. As I mentioned before, the holes need to be enlarged to line up better with the 240Z housing. The squirrel cage measures 5.75 inches in diameter. Side view Outside OK - thanks Steve Same overall dimensions as the 4 seasons one, so mine is not a quirk. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/62126-blower-motor-upgrade-not-a-honda/?&page=5#findComment-657319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 21, 20231 yr comment_657321 You're welcome. Now that we're out of scorching hot weather around here, I may see about doing the fan swap in the 260Z. I can shoot video of it, too. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/62126-blower-motor-upgrade-not-a-honda/?&page=5#findComment-657321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 23, 20231 yr comment_657393 Modded mine today - enlarged hole carefully with die-grinder & half round file to clean it up. Went to 5.7" Fan cage can be angled in place 5.75" cage OD Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/62126-blower-motor-upgrade-not-a-honda/?&page=5#findComment-657393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 23, 20231 yr comment_657394 Nice, That was a good tip someone brought up on the forum. What a fantastic resource we have here. Nice work friend. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/62126-blower-motor-upgrade-not-a-honda/?&page=5#findComment-657394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 23, 20231 yr comment_657418 prepped & painted The blower needs a cushion - I put closed cell foam on the housing first - that didn't work so I transferred it to the lip of the blower motor outer flange The stock bolts were too long now, so I switched to shorter M5 hardware. Bolts line up with stock holes, no mod to casing required squirrel cage offset Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/62126-blower-motor-upgrade-not-a-honda/?&page=5#findComment-657418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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