June 20, 20195 yr Author comment_578021 Another thing to note is that I went under the car and checked the fuel pump while the car was running with the switch in the off position, and the pump didn't appear to be running. It was making no sound and when I grabbed it to feel if it was running I felt no vibration or hum other than that of the engine. This was also only a one time deal, every other time I would turn the fuel pump relay off with the engine running the car would die from fuel starvation. Still no idea how this happened but I don't think it was from a swelling fuel line. All of the fuel lines were rotted when I bought the car so I replaced all of them along with the fuel filter in the engine bay. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/62337-78-280z-idle-problem/?&page=3#findComment-578021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 20, 20195 yr Author comment_578022 Actually come to think of it this wasn't a stand alone event, when I first got my car moving under it's own power I had vitually no understanding of how the wiring worked and so I bypassed the fuel pump relay with a fuse to prime the engine, took out the fuse stopping the fuel pump and drove the car exactly 3.6 miles before the engine died of fuel starvation. The only issue I had the whole way was if I took it above 4k rpm the engine would start to die out. Eventually I came to a stop sign and made a turn and for whatever reason the car stalled and continued to do so no matter how high I reved the engine up or how slowly I let off the clutch. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/62337-78-280z-idle-problem/?&page=3#findComment-578022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 20, 20195 yr comment_578026 My car's a 280z, so it has EFI instead of carbsYeah, I saw that. I mentioned carbs because they have their own local reservoirs and will continue to work until the reservoirs empty. EFI only has residual pressure in the fuel supply line which isn't going to give as much as carbs. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/62337-78-280z-idle-problem/?&page=3#findComment-578026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 20, 20195 yr comment_578029 Efi fuel filters hold about a quart. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/62337-78-280z-idle-problem/?&page=3#findComment-578029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 20, 20195 yr comment_578034 3 hours ago, siteunseen said: Efi fuel filters hold about a quart. yes but they use fuel pressure to atomize the fuel, no pressure no fuel for EFI. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/62337-78-280z-idle-problem/?&page=3#findComment-578034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 20, 20195 yr comment_578035 I think its safe to say the running/non running fuel pump is a rabbit hole not needed to go down. OP did you check the CTS (coolant temp sensor) per the FSM? do the check at the ECU connector. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/62337-78-280z-idle-problem/?&page=3#findComment-578035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 20, 20195 yr comment_578047 Here's a nice unsafe way to determine if fuel is somehow being pumped into the engine without your knowledge: unplug the fuel hose between the hardline and engine bay fuel filter, put it in a bucket, and have someone try and start the car (with the fuel pump switch off) and see if you get gas. You'll know real quick if theres some hidden pump somewhere (or if your switch isn't working/wired correctly)... Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/62337-78-280z-idle-problem/?&page=3#findComment-578047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 20, 20195 yr Author comment_578074 5 hours ago, chaseincats said: Here's a nice unsafe way to determine if fuel is somehow being pumped into the engine without your knowledge: unplug the fuel hose between the hardline and engine bay fuel filter, put it in a bucket, and have someone try and start the car (with the fuel pump switch off) and see if you get gas. You'll know real quick if theres some hidden pump somewhere (or if your switch isn't working/wired correctly)... Well at least I’d know lol Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/62337-78-280z-idle-problem/?&page=3#findComment-578074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 24, 20195 yr comment_578321 Any luck finding the issue? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/62337-78-280z-idle-problem/?&page=3#findComment-578321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 26, 20195 yr Author comment_578395 On 6/24/2019 at 7:46 PM, chaseincats said: Any luck finding the issue? No, I haven’t had the chance to mess with it anymore I’ve been pulling doubles everyday in addition to replacing the clutch and flywheel, hopefully I can figure it out today. Now I’ve got another issue as the clutch grinds going into gear even though it’s brand new Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/62337-78-280z-idle-problem/?&page=3#findComment-578395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 26, 20195 yr comment_578396 55 minutes ago, Jack Pearcy said: No, I haven’t had the chance to mess with it anymore I’ve been pulling doubles everyday in addition to replacing the clutch and flywheel, hopefully I can figure it out today. Now I’ve got another issue as the clutch grinds going into gear even though it’s brand new If you installed a new clutch master cylinder you need to swap the pusher rod (the metal bit that goes into the cylinder) because the reproductions are shorter for some reason (this was my problem). Also be sure its fully bled. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/62337-78-280z-idle-problem/?&page=3#findComment-578396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 26, 20195 yr Author comment_578397 I do have a new master cylinder, but I installed it a while ago, it may need to be bled again, as far as the pushrod goes do you mean use the original push rod? I still have it so it shouldn’t be an issue but right now it has the reproduction push rod in it Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/62337-78-280z-idle-problem/?&page=3#findComment-578397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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