Patcon Posted September 12, 2019 Share #121 Posted September 12, 2019 You need a decent set of these Then measure one of the valve lobes across the bottom width. Not from the peak to the round end but from one side to the other. That should be the base circle measurement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetwood Posted September 12, 2019 Author Share #122 Posted September 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Patcon said: You need a decent set of these Then measure one of the valve lobes across the bottom width. Not from the peak to the round end but from one side to the other. That should be the base circle measurement Got it. Know I have those, just need to figure out where it put them in my garage... Thanks. Appreciate the help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteunseen Posted September 12, 2019 Share #123 Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) That fpr no matter where it is regulates the fuel pressure. My 77 had in on both sides return on bottom vacuum nipple on top. With mine and your straight shot fuel rails comes in the front closer to the radiator. Then the fpr takes that incoming fuel and regulates it (same psi) for the whole rail. It will take what you need and dump the excess through the return. That's the cool thing about those aluminum rails, they constantly flow fresh "cool fuel". No fuel overheating causing the hot restart problem a lot of folks experience. So to answer your original question, the 78 fpr has an incoming fuel nipple that regulates the psi. And a vacuum nipple on top. Rockauto.com had one for $75 when I did mine. Edited September 12, 2019 by siteunseen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed Head Posted September 12, 2019 Share #124 Posted September 12, 2019 Here's more goodness from atlanticz's ancient page. Looks like 33.3 mm is the typical Nissan base circle diameter. You can measure that without removing anything except the valve cover. http://www.atlanticz.ca/zclub/techtips/valvetrain/index.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patcon Posted September 12, 2019 Share #125 Posted September 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Zed Head said: Here's more goodness from atlanticz's ancient page. Looks like 33.3 mm is the typical Nissan base circle diameter. You can measure that without removing anything except the valve cover. http://www.atlanticz.ca/zclub/techtips/valvetrain/index.html Ahhh pictures...much better! Thanks Zed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetwood Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share #126 Posted September 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Zed Head said: Here's more goodness from atlanticz's ancient page. Looks like 33.3 mm is the typical Nissan base circle diameter. You can measure that without removing anything except the valve cover. http://www.atlanticz.ca/zclub/techtips/valvetrain/index.html Measured cams. 33.3 mm short, 40.3 mm long. At least really close to that, converting my inches (long converted to 40.386 mm). Seems to be really close to stock if not stock. PO claims it was swapped out, but the lift doesn't seem to match up to any of the Schneider cams (at least those available now) which all have a much larger lift... Raw numbers: Short: 1.31" (33.274mm) Long: 1.59" (40.386mm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed Head Posted September 13, 2019 Share #127 Posted September 13, 2019 This just popped in to my head - some grinders use blanks to make their high performance cams. So they could keep the stock base circle. They only need to cut the base circle down if they regrind a factory cam. Looks like Schneider does either. http://schneidercams.com/dastsunL6_NA.aspx Your measurements imply about a 7 mm lift, 0.28". I think that Nissan rocker arms are either 1.5 or 1.6 ratio. So you'd be at 0.42 to 0.45" valve lift. Even with measurement error, that's not going to be a high lift cam. Cam timing is important though and that might be where any performance improvements come from. So it might be a Schneider cam, moving the RPM range for power, but it's not one of their super-duper cams, like the 300F. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetwood Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share #128 Posted September 13, 2019 Thanks @Zed Head. Given what you're saying, it doesn't sound like the cam is of utmost concern at this point and I should concentrate on other areas. I'm going to order a Fuel Pressure Regulator, test some of the other things you guys have pointed me to and wait for the results of having the injectors flow tested. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted September 13, 2019 Share #129 Posted September 13, 2019 That's a stock Nissan cam. Not a regrind. You might check and adjust the valves while you have the cover off, but other than that, move on. Fix your fuel pressure and get your PCV routing correct. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetwood Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share #130 Posted September 23, 2019 A bit of information coming in. I don't have the full results, but heard from the company I sent my fuel injectors to for cleaning/flow testing. Results were that the flow rate was approx. 190cc, which is pretty close to the 185cc of original. They should be on their way back to me tomorrow and I'll look at the full results. I'm assuming with this news, I should go ahead and reinstall vs purchasing new ones. Also purchased a fuel regulator that I'll put on at the same time, in place of the aftermarket there now. With both back in place, I can start looking at why the fuel pressure is so low. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroDat Posted September 23, 2019 Share #131 Posted September 23, 2019 Well that is another possible cause scratched of the list. Eliminating problems instead of assuming will get you there. 190cc will be close enough. More important is that they are ALL close to 190cc. Otherwise you can have lean and rich cylinders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteunseen Posted September 23, 2019 Share #132 Posted September 23, 2019 Anxious to see what the OE fuel pressure regulator does. My set up is very similar to your's except for that. I've only read bad on the adjustable ones like the one your car. Maybe this will get you where you can pass smog check? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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