COVID-19

[dhp123166]

16 minutes ago, Av8ferg said:

I disagree that it’s just about distance. Talking a local limited resource and buying all that is available and gouging people that desperately need it is criminal. So how do you increase the needed resource to a population? You have to incentivize it. How do you incentivize people to bring the resource that isn’t in demand to a region it is in demand. This occurred in my city with roofers and drywallers. Roofers came from as the mid-west and every corner of America to put roofs of houses that needed it post Hurricane Florence. Sure they charged much more and GOD BLESS them, because people got roofs on their homes. The story is different with drywall. My neighbor is still not in her house because the city said drywallers couldn’t charge over a specific rate or they would be charged and arrested. So, now 17 months later my neighbors still lives in a rental with no drywall in her permanent house that sustained water damage due to roof failed. We don’t have enough local drywall workers to meet the demand. Did the government policy help her, no it screwed her royally. No drywall business is going to drive a crew from Arkansas to help us when they’re getting $22 a sheet. If it was allowed to go to $60 she would have been in here house now, but no government gets in the way and we still have over 500 homes unlivable here. Thanks government for helping the people, you made it so fair everyone gets the screw. This is why my new house is still incomplete 18 months after breaking ground. Local workers stretched too thin and government mandating prices. That’s just like socialism...everyone gets to be equally miserable.


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Well the megarich business owners are not going to be miserable if they get their bailouts.

Can anyone tell me why the cruise ship industry needs a bailout?

What do they contribute that outweighs their fiscal irresponsibility?

Socialism for the rich, capitalism for an average Joe like me.

 

BTW Harvey Weinstein tested positive for the Corona virus.

[Mark Maras]

4 minutes ago, dhp123166 said:

 

Can anyone tell me why the cruise ship industry needs a bailout?

What do they contribute that outweighs their fiscal irresponsibility?

 I've puzzled on this one too. Today "Our best leader ever" mentioned bailing out the Love Boats and tourism in Florida. Could it be he has a special interest in Florida tourism? Sorry, that's one of those "NASTY QUESTIONS".

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[Zed Head]

35 minutes ago, AK260 said:

I can't figure out what this means.  Sorry.  Is that Ozzy Osbourne upper right?

I did have my haircut by a PHD though.  Professional hair dresser.

[Patcon]

There was an interesting article about the cruise lines on Zerohedge the other day. Very enlightening! They are all flagged out of low tax countries to evade US tax law and workers right laws but now they want a US bailout??? Another good reason to not go on a cruise...

[dhp123166]

28 minutes ago, Mark Maras said:

 I've puzzled on this one too. Today "Our best leader ever" mentioned bailing out the Love Boats and tourism in Florida. Could it be he has a special interest in Florida tourism? Sorry, that's one of those "NASTY QUESTIONS".

So much for free market capitalism.

Wonder where all the budget hawks with their whining and complaining about the "nanny state" are?

[dhp123166]

13 minutes ago, Patcon said:

There was an interesting article about the cruise lines on Zerohedge the other day. Very enlightening! They are all flagged out of low tax countries to evade US tax law and workers right laws but now they want a US bailout??? Another good reason to not go on a cruise...

While they employ a total of around 250,000, Americans comprise something like 4% of that figure. 

Mainly because it is a brutal industry to work in and Americans don't want to work that hard...but still.

 

[Patcon]

1 minute ago, dhp123166 said:

While they employ a total of around 250,000, Americans comprise something like 4% of that figure. 

Mainly because it is a brutal industry to work in and Americans don't want to work that hard...but still.

 

and they pay $2-3 an hour for 60-70 hour weeks...

I wouldn't volunteer for that either!

[Zed Head]

3 hours ago, 240260280 said:

Germany has very few deaths vs number of cases. They are doing something right.

Maybe it's the sausage.  I had breakfast in a German airport and it was all sausage.  Ten different kinds of sausage.

Actually, they're proposing that it might just be the care that the sick people are getting.  The hospitals aren't full and they were ready. Some expect the numbers to go up as they get over-run.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/22/germany-low-coronavirus-mortality-rate-puzzles-experts

[dhp123166]

30 minutes ago, Patcon said:

and they pay $2-3 an hour for 60-70 hour weeks...

I wouldn't volunteer for that either!

Me neither. I wasn't besmirching American workers but underlining the fact that next to no Americans would be getting any bailout from their employer...if it indeed trickled down that far.

Side note; workers on cruise ships are "allowed" to be inebriated, provided they can hold their booze and it isn't obvious.

[Av8ferg]

This is sad. Italy is no longer treating patients with Covid-19 over due the age of 60.

https://m.jpost.com/International/Israeli-doctor-in-Italy-We-no-longer-help-those-over-60-621856


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[240260280]

4 minutes ago, Av8ferg said:

This is sad. Italy is no longer treating patients with Covid-19 over due the age of 60.

https://m.jpost.com/International/Israeli-doctor-in-Italy-We-no-longer-help-those-over-60-621856


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Sadder is that the bar was at 80 a week  ago.... they lowered it again!!!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/14/italians-80-will-left-die-country-overwhelmed-coronavirus/