COVID-19

[grannyknot]

An oldie but a goodie,

 

[Racer X]

Well, it has happened again. For the third time since mid August, Racer has been sent home on quarantine due to contact tracing. This time it was the brother in law of a coworker testing positive, and the coworker and I have been working very closely for the last 8 weeks.

Oh well, two weeks at home should be OK, after all, I have Datsuns to work on, eh?

 

[Zed Head]

And we haven't even hit the big holidays yet.  Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years Eve.  There is some thought that just Halloween activities have caused some increase in spread.  Walking the neighborhood with the little spreaders in their costumes.

I wish there was more info on how to survive it if you get it.  WA, OR and CA are coordinating quarantining and travel advisories.  I'm not sure though, that these guys really understand how long two weeks is.  What we need is more testing.

https://spectrumnews1.com/ca/san-fernando-valley-ventura/coronavirus/2020/11/13/california-issues-travel-advisory-along-with-oregon--washington

https://komonews.com/news/coronavirus/washington-asks-all-incoming-travelers-to-self-quarantine-for-14-days

https://covidactnow.org/us/washington-wa?s=1318327

Edited November 13, 2020 by Zed Head

[Racer X]

20 minutes ago, Zed Head said:

I'm not sure though, that these guys really understand how long two weeks is. 

Two weeks is forever when you can't go anywhere.

This will be my third time. Just like the other two, I'm on the first day and already climbing the walls.

We are social creatures, and most of us thrive on social contact. Take that away, it is a huge change, one that is a challenge to manage.

 

[Pilgrim]

If you cross the border into Canada, it's two weeks' quarantine, no exceptions, no excuses. I don't see WA getting  much compliance with the governor's request for two reasons: 1) there is no compliance mechanism, and 2) from what I've read, the folks who don't wear masks consider the WA governor to be a liberal extremist, so they tend to resist anything he says.

Edited November 14, 2020 by Pilgrim

[Namerow]

I fear that the next step (in both Canada and the US) may be the implosion of the healthcare system due to a combination of worker fatigue, fear, resentment and (sadly) illness.  And, by 'worker', I include doctors and nurses.  There is a useful article in today's Toronto Globe and Mail that discusses the measures taken by local and state governments in and around Melbourne, Australia back in the late summer to address the emergence of a post-first-wave spike that they feared would get out of control.  Three months later, they look like geniuses.  Melbourne, by the way, is similar in population and geographic size to a typical medium-size US city.  Worth a read.

[Zed Head]

50 minutes ago, Namerow said:

I fear that the next step (in both Canada and the US) may be the implosion of the healthcare system due to a combination of worker fatigue, fear, resentment and (sadly) illness.  And, by 'worker', I include doctors and nurses.  There is a useful article in today's Toronto Globe and Mail that discusses the measures taken by local and state governments in and around Melbourne, Australia back in the late summer to address the emergence of a post-first-wave spike that they feared would get out of control.  Three months later, they look like geniuses.  Melbourne, by the way, is similar in population and geographic size to a typical medium-size US city.  Worth a read.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-how-an-australian-state-beat-its-second-wave-of-covid-19/

By late summer you meant late winter in Australia right?  August is mid-winter.  I've wondered about migrating south.

"By Aug. 2, when Victoria widened the lockdowns to the rest of the state, Melburnians had already been living under stay-at-home orders since early July."

[siteunseen]

On 11/13/2020 at 2:59 PM, Racer X said:

Two weeks is forever when you can't go anywhere.

This will be my third time. Just like the other two, I'm on the first day and already climbing the walls.

We are social creatures, and most of us thrive on social contact. Take that away, it is a huge change, one that is a challenge to manage.

 

At least you have Grumpy Cat to enteryain you.

 

[Zed Head]

6 hours ago, Namerow said:

I fear that the next step (in both Canada and the US) may be the implosion of the healthcare system due to a combination of worker fatigue, fear, resentment and (sadly) illness.  And, by 'worker', I include doctors and nurses.  There is a useful article in today's Toronto Globe and Mail that discusses the measures taken by local and state governments in and around Melbourne, Australia back in the late summer to address the emergence of a post-first-wave spike that they feared would get out of control.  Three months later, they look like geniuses.  Melbourne, by the way, is similar in population and geographic size to a typical medium-size US city.  Worth a read.

Here's a followup with more detail about Australia.  It's weird that a country that has the image as more primitive and "manly" and independent thinking (Crocodile Dundee and all that), would have a citizenry that would listen to their rational leaders rational requests, and solve the problem.  It makes us look far worse since we've had the whole summer, the best environment, to knock it back.  We need a 24 hour per day Australia channel so we can all learn.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/15/packed-crowds-and-euphoric-leaders-australia-revels-in-covid-free-days

[madkaw]

30 minutes ago, Zed Head said:

Here's a followup with more detail about Australia.  It's weird that a country that has the image as more primitive and "manly" and independent thinking (Crocodile Dundee and all that), would have a citizenry that would listen to their rational leaders rational requests, and solve the problem.  It makes us look far worse since we've had the whole summer, the best environment, to knock it back.  We need a 24 hour per day Australia channel so we can all learn.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/15/packed-crowds-and-euphoric-leaders-australia-revels-in-covid-free-days

Recently sent an A trans to Aussie land to get fixed . The Datsun guy there thought the USA was in a sad place . He didn’t like the lock downs, but thought USA looked uglier without . The world is watching us . 

[siteunseen]

That's my take. Half the Americans see it us aginst them but we're all this together. Like it or not. So Biden got the white house.

[Zed Head]

I'm starting to think that what's really happening, overall, is that the "troll" culture is taking over.  In the old days, people listened to each other because there were repercussions if they didn't.  You might get eaten by a bear or catch a nasty disease.  Now everyone has the internet to feed them information.  We don't need "other people" anymore to think we know what's going on, just the internet and mainstream media, which is controlled by big money.

Tromp 2020 in Australia.  Now that's an expensive "owning the libs" but what other purpose would it have?  Crazy stuff...

 

Edited November 15, 2020 by Zed Head