COVID-19

[Pilgrim]

Sure, howzabout not pursuing something we are unlikely to agree about? 

[Pilgrim]

I'll sum up my position and let it go after that: If I had done as well as Fauci has, considering the administration's ineptness and mess he was faced with until January, knowing that the science and knowledge around this pandemic was changing every week, and also considering the internal and external politics of the health organizations he has to deal with, I'd be very damn proud of what I had done. I firmly consider him to be the best source of information in the US. 

[240260280]

19 hours ago, Mike said:

I know for a fact that Fauci pushed Remdesiver when its limited trails showed no benefits.  He made it part of the standard treatment in the early days Q2, 2020.  I knew he was with with big Pharma then... he is evil.

Edited June 7, 2021 by 240260280

[Racer X]

18 hours ago, siteunseen said:

Can American banks cash reparation checks from China? I need a sheet of plywood.

"In addition, all nations should work together to present China for a bill of minimum USD 10 trillion to compensate for the damage they have caused and that is a very low number, the damage is far far greater. As a first step, all countries should collectively cancel any debt that they owe to China as a downpayment on reparations," he said at the convention.

 

I dunno, you think that’ll be enough for a sheet of plywood?

😬

 

[240260280]

over 1 yer ago.... just say'n

 

[240260280]

Look at PPE they are wearing and at the same time saying it is not transmissible to humans? BS

 

Here is Ebola PPE and "non-transmissible Wuhan Dec 2019  PPE"

 

EBOLA                                                     WUHAN DEC 2019

   

 

First video of outbreak on Youtube Jan 4 2020

 

 

[240260280]

Earliest report on outbreak that I could find (Dec.30 2019):

 

Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-pneumonia-idUSKBN1YZ0GP

Associated Press: https://apnews.com/article/health-international-news-china-severe-acute-respiratory-syndrome-epidemics-00c78d1974410d96fe031f67edbd86ec

[Racer X]

I long for the moment they tell me I don’t have to wear this ******* mask anymore.

I know, if you have been vaccinated you don’t need it outdoors, but I spend 8 to 10 hours a day inside The Big Shed, and company policy still requires masks and social distancing.

 

[siteunseen]

4 minutes ago, Racer X said:

I long for the moment they tell me I don’t have to wear this ******* mask anymore.

I know, if you have been vaccinated you don’t need it outdoors, but I spend 8 to 10 hours a day inside The Big Shed, and company policy still requires masks and social distancing.

 

13 weeks for you. 

[Racer X]

21 hours ago, Zed Head said:

That's an odd path to aviation machinist.  Not really seeing the machinist training in there, but you got in.

Check this video out, just came across it.

 

As a journeyman utility mechanic I trained in light, medium and heavy duty vehicle maintenance and repair, steel and aluminum fabrication (there was a fabrication shop with a large shear, sheet metal brake, iron worker, hossfeld bender, gas, img and tig welding equipment), and the shop had a full machine shop with a Bridgeport mill, metal lathe with a 12” headstock, several industrial type drill presses, a 10 ton hydraulic press, cylinder head tooling, brake service equipment, exhaust service equipment.

So I was overqualified as an aerospace machinist.

That Cincinnati mill is awesome. Every machine shop needs at least one.

[Pilgrim]

6 hours ago, 240260280 said:

over 1 yer ago.... just say'n

 

The problem with that clip is this, and it's a terrible commentary on what happened to our government during the Trump administration: anything Trump or Pompeo said at any time could safely be assumed to be a lie. This is especially true of Trump, who was lying about 90% of the time. Pompeo was his stooge and parrot. It also is reasonable to assume the Homeland Security quote was written by Trump appointees whose job was to agree with him.  Therefore, I discount everything from all three of those sources.

It's a sad day when you have to assume that most of what your government says is lies, but that was the case throughout Trump's term.

I take Fauci's comments as his best understanding of the situation, which changed as time went along. I'm not saying that he was never wrong, but I followed his comments and they seemed to follow the chains of evidence and understanding that evolved throughout the last 18 months. 

Edited June 7, 2021 by Pilgrim

[motorman7]

On 6/6/2021 at 12:22 PM, Mike said:

.... If anything, I am pushing my doubts about everything you read and see from the media (the true enemy to all of us).  Question everything, my friends... 

I share your common thought on the media, “The true enemy to all of us”.  I loathe the media and its’ agenda which I believe is to cause division, strife and fear in their effort to promote their business and  control the masses and the direction of the country.  Unfortunately, we allow it, and bite into the agenda hook line and sinker.

                Sadly, I only discovered this about 4 years ago when the whole controversy about the border wall came up.  As a resident of San Diego, I am quite familiar with the wall and all of its pro’s and cons.  While the local news station here would interview border patrol officials who would air their support and praise of the wall, CNN would interview residents in Texas who had the wall on their property and absolutely hated the wall.  Obviously there are both sides to this issue.  The issue I began to see is that only one side of this story was being told by CNN and most liberal media. Chances are you have never seen the significant number of border patrol officials and officers praising the wall, while you most definitely have been bombarded with how terrible the wall is.  I learned through all this that the goal of the media is not to tell you a full story, it is to tell their side so that you follow their agenda and share their same ideals.  And this can be said about most issues both liberal and conservative.  By bombarding you with one side of the story, you only fully understand one side of the story.  And by only knowing one side of the story, the opposite opinion seems foreign.  So foreign in fact that it is now termed a ‘Lie’. If someone were to say that “the wall is a good thing”, someone with an opposing might even go so far as to say that is a ‘Lie’, even though there are many that actually like the wall.  I use this as an example to show our current state of affairs and how the media operates.

 

                Another issue that would fall under this heading is the police brutality issue.  While tens of millions of interactions between police and individual occur each year, only an incredibly small number of these interactions result in police brutality and an individuals death.  However, the media will show this over and over again, ad nauseum, to make you feel that it is a horrible problem and police are bad.  The reality is that given the number of interactions, it is incredibly rare.  The presentation by the media comes across as all police are bad and we need to get rid of them or defund them.  You should hopefully realize at this point that this is the media agenda, and unfortunately most media indulge in it.  It promotes their business. Why just stick with the police?  What about bad doctors, bad contractors, bad salesmen, bad internet trolls, bad engineers (wait a minute, I’m and engineer)?  The reality is, that if you look hard enough, you will find a few bad apples in just about any profession, and a number of those I just listed could cost you your life if they do something wrong.  Beware the agenda.  The medias’ goal is to present an agenda and control your thinking.

                And yes, this is particularly appropriate on the Covid thread.  Media is presenting an agenda, and most of us are just lemmings, following along.  If we hear a different idea or opinion from our main news source, then it must be a ‘Lie’.  Honestly however, it is just a different opinion, right or wrong. 

 

    My whole point here really is that we just need to be civil.  I may not agree with you and you may not agree with me.  We should however, listen and respect each others comments.  And most of all…don’t let the media run your life.

(Haven't posted in a while...this should surely get me in trouble)

Edited June 7, 2021 by motorman7