32 minutes ago, 240260280 said:

It is exploding all over the planet.  Leaders have nothing to do with it,.... it is the people and their actions to blame.

i.e. if you think Biden is suddenly going to save the day you are fooling yourselves.... only you can protect yourself.

It's a lack of leadership that has put the US in the position it is in. A good leader sets the example and sets the narrative.  Nations across the globe are under attack. How the leaders responded dictated the outcome. It's like we were attacked by a foreign enemy and the answer from the federal government was for states to buy their own bullets on ebay. 

 

13 minutes ago, siteunseen said:

Your actions control your destiny

Not in a pandemic. In a pandemic your actions control MY destiny as well as yours. I'm fine if you want to jump off a cliff. If you try and grab me as you go off the edge I'm going to have something to say about it. 

1 hour ago, 240260280 said:

It is exploding all over the planet.  Leaders have nothing to do with it,.... it is the people and their actions to blame.

i.e. if you think Biden is suddenly going to save the day you are fooling yourselves.... only you can protect yourself.

I have to disagree with this philosophy. There are many that know in the heart and mind Trump is lying or is wrong , but “out of respect” for the president they will just follow along. He very much pushes the narrative and direction of the country . People are gullible - it’s been proven over and over again in world history. 

1 hour ago, Derek said:

Not in a pandemic. In a pandemic your actions control MY destiny as well as yours. I'm fine if you want to jump off a cliff. If you try and grab me as you go off the edge I'm going to have something to say about it. 

You got me there. I agree 100%.

I was thinking about religion, the government etc.

Edited October 28, 20204 yr by siteunseen

Now Germany and France are going back into national lockdown ...

 

 

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-germany-to-enter-four-week-lockdown-from-november-chancellor-merkel-confirms-12117056

 

Something to look forward to as it sounds like we are heading in a similar direction in the UK.

 

https://www.bloombergquint.com/politics/johnson-braces-for-england-lockdown-as-coronavirus-cases-surge

 

Hungary is allowing fans at their soccer games.  Can't end well.  Those are real people in the stands, not cutouts.  Meanwhile, their hospitals hit record high cases.  Same day as the game.  Today.

https://news.yahoo.com/number-covid-patients-hospitalized-hungary-115146111.html

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Edited October 28, 20204 yr by Zed Head
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4 hours ago, AK260 said:

Now Germany and France are going back into national lockdown ...

 

Blame it on Trump. Biden to the rescue.... a good election will fix things.  lol

Edited October 29, 20204 yr by 240260280

Blame it on Trump. Biden to the rescue.... a good election will fix things. 

Nah, stupid Brexit will fix all our ills!! ;)

USA is actually doing better than many when normalized:

 

Area under the curve.  

Belgium, Israel, Qatar...  Otherwise, a hodge podge of countries doing worse over time.  The large developed nations are all doing better.  

18 hours ago, 240260280 said:

Blame it on Trump. Biden to the rescue.... a good election will fix things.  lol

Same story every 4 years.

Biden's gonna turn the pandemic around. 2016 Trump's gonna build a wall. 

I prefer someone who knows politics and politicians. I wouldn't try to fly a plane by myself.

2 hours ago, siteunseen said:

Same story every 4 years.

Biden's gonna turn the pandemic around. 2016 Trump's gonna build a wall. 

I prefer someone who knows politics and politicians. I wouldn't try to fly a plane by myself.

I am joking and actually hoping for Trump as he is the "less worse" and has better foreign policy with China.