1 hour ago, Pilgrim said:

I have a problem with this "violates your rights" protestation. What it really means is "I'm pissed at not getting my way, so I'll claim my rights are being violated."

 

 

A feeling of entitlement and a lack of empathy. The two sides of the same narcissistic coin.

 

1 hour ago, Pilgrim said:

 

Also, it is sometimes possible to insist on your rights to the point where it is roughly equivalent to committing suicide.

 Perhaps the origin of the term "dead right".

I think that some of the face covering refusal is just normal denial of something scary and uncontrollable.  Without leadership showing bravery and giving guidance it's easier for some people to deny a problem exists than to deal with it mentally and emotionally.  At this point the problem seems endless, no solution in sight, so people have no reason to delay what they see as inevitable.

And the lack of leadership is not just the bright shiny guy at the top.  The silence from Congress is probably fear-based also.  No one there is sacrificing anything for their constituents, just trying to hang on to what they have.  We'll probably see many members coming out from hiding if they make it through the next election cycle, pretending that they were working behind the scenes to solve the problems.

It really seems like the guys that control the country see the bulk of the population as "work-force", here to produce goods for them to benefit from.  Trying to starve them/us back out to go to work.  And 200,000 dead / 328,000,000 is only 0.06%.  A small cost to keep the money flowing.  1,000,000 / 328,000,000 is only 0.3%.  Peanuts.  And most of them old and not working anyway.  Dead wood.

That's how some of those guys see things.  Just numbers.

It's not just the college kids.  It's the delay in symptoms, and the asymptomatic part that is the big problem.  If people would just die as soon as they get it, life would be so much more sensible.

That's what the scientists should be working on.  An injection that amplifies the effects.  Get the injection and you can go do what you want.  Because you'll die as soon as you get COVID-19.  You won't be able to spread it.  All damage contained to you.  They could call it the the Freedom Injection.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/tens-thousands-motorcycle-enthusiasts-traveled-153930782.html

I agree in general with your proposition.  I would replace one word: ""That's is what the scientists should be working on".  This nothing to do with scientists.  It has everything to do generational politics. 

• If you're under 35, your premise is this:  'I have a career and and a life to pursue and I won't be held back by a virus that statistics tell me is no more dangerous to me than dying of influenza."
• If you're older than 65, your premise is this: 'I worked hard to get where I am and now my life and my future is being jeopardized by a bunch of careless, selfish younger people who just don't care.'

 

What about if your 35-65 age bracket


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Then you're somewhere in between the two views, aren't you?  Only the under 35's and the over-65's enjoy the certainties of their views.

I was offering a simple solution that all sides should accept.  Except maybe the death part.  I projected.  How about just instantaneous signs of infection.  Frothing at the mouth, collapse, cries of agony.  So that everyone knows there's an infected person present.  It will cut down on contact tracing needs dramatically.

The link I posted was about how it's not just the young people (college usually implies young).  These guys are all older.  Biker crowds.

So we're going to avoid the elephant in the room/hospital?

 

Crazy times man, crazy times.  I hope we all make it through and get back to at least some form of sustainable madness.

More and more of the people in the crowds at the events and parties are testing positive.  Russia doesn't need any help at all...

Too serious.  Had a joke here.  Wait it out.

 

Edited October 3, 20204 yr by Zed Head

Are you saying "too soon" after the d*** punch on Biden's sons?

"Come on man!" 

 

 

Nah, I said "too serious".  Making fun of one man's plight, when 200,000 plus other real people have died because of it just doesn't work.  Makes it all seem normal when really it does border on insanity.  He'll probably survive, call him healed in a week or two, while another 7,000 - 14,000 citizens have died in the meantime.

And, probably, nothing will change.  Nothing is changing now.

Edited October 3, 20204 yr by Zed Head