Posted April 18, 20204 yr comment_597446 I’m getting ready to restore my ‘70 240z. While going through my pile of parts, I came across a complete front and rear undercarriage of an early ‘70 I recuperate of a car that the body was way past it’s expiration date. The question is; how far gone is considered “too far gone” to get into the trouble of restoration for those suspension, steering, diff, breaks, tabs and all parts? Anyone with the experience and or wisdom on the topic that could weight in.? Tks! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/63866-when-is-it-%E2%80%9Ctoo-far-gone%E2%80%9C-to-be-worth-resorting/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 18, 20204 yr comment_597451 Most of those parts are still good. Rust "grows" so it looks worse than it is. The rotors can be turned, the hubs are still good on the inside where it matters, the struts can have shocks inserted, etc. The insulators at the tops of the strut are hard to find. The half shafts and u-joints are probably still good. The steering rack rubber looks intact. Lots of good parts there. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/63866-when-is-it-%E2%80%9Ctoo-far-gone%E2%80%9C-to-be-worth-resorting/#findComment-597451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 19, 20204 yr comment_597455 All of that is very restorable, the sand blaster is your friend. This what it will come out like. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/63866-when-is-it-%E2%80%9Ctoo-far-gone%E2%80%9C-to-be-worth-resorting/#findComment-597455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 19, 20204 yr comment_597456 Sandblast, powdercoat or paint... Rubber bits can be replaced. Shock cartridges can be replaced or you can use the housings to build a set of coilovers, or send them in for cores. Lots of good stuff there. Edited April 19, 20204 yr by ConVerTT Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/63866-when-is-it-%E2%80%9Ctoo-far-gone%E2%80%9C-to-be-worth-resorting/#findComment-597456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 19, 20204 yr comment_597459 1 hour ago, Zed Head said: Most of those parts are still good. Rust "grows" so it looks worse than it is. The rotors can be turned, the hubs are still good on the inside where it matters, the struts can have shocks inserted, etc. The insulators at the tops of the strut are hard to find. The half shafts and u-joints are probably still good. The steering rack rubber looks intact. Lots of good parts there. I gotta dumb question, why turn rotors? they seem pretty affordable to just get new ones..... Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/63866-when-is-it-%E2%80%9Ctoo-far-gone%E2%80%9C-to-be-worth-resorting/#findComment-597459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 19, 20204 yr comment_597461 He asked if they were still good. They probably are. So, not really a dumb question. There are still a few NAPA stores and small shops around that have a guy that knows how to run the rotor turning machine. The way they do it allows you to keep the bearing races in. (Edit - since the rotor is separate bearings don't come into play, my mistake). Why waste money if you don't have to? Take 'em off, drop 'em off, pick them up in a couple of hours, bolt 'em right back on. It's old school. And, who knows what "new" means these days? Edited April 19, 20204 yr by Zed Head Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/63866-when-is-it-%E2%80%9Ctoo-far-gone%E2%80%9C-to-be-worth-resorting/#findComment-597461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 19, 20204 yr Author comment_597462 1 minute ago, Zed Head said: And, who knows what "new" means these days? You got that one right!.... Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/63866-when-is-it-%E2%80%9Ctoo-far-gone%E2%80%9C-to-be-worth-resorting/#findComment-597462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 19, 20204 yr Author comment_597463 @grannyknot they do look very good once blasted!.. I will surely go that route. What about the dust shield for the front breaks ? They are different from my ‘73, Do they still make these? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/63866-when-is-it-%E2%80%9Ctoo-far-gone%E2%80%9C-to-be-worth-resorting/#findComment-597463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 19, 20204 yr comment_597464 No one makes them as far as I know but you shouldn't have too much problem finding them used. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/63866-when-is-it-%E2%80%9Ctoo-far-gone%E2%80%9C-to-be-worth-resorting/#findComment-597464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 19, 20204 yr comment_597503 13 hours ago, heyitsrama said: I gotta dumb question, why turn rotors? they seem pretty affordable to just get new ones..... I would probably just replace them also, depends how much you need to skim off them and what the minimum thickness is after that. Deep pitting will be a problem.. Half the issue here will be that undoing a lot of badly rusted stuff can be frustrating and take hours.. If the calipers have seized pistons etc.. it might be easier to start with better ones, but the main suspension components will come up good after a blast and powdercoat. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/63866-when-is-it-%E2%80%9Ctoo-far-gone%E2%80%9C-to-be-worth-resorting/#findComment-597503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 19, 20204 yr comment_597519 It's just math, time and understanding. New is easy. I screwed up in my first post because the rotor is separate from the hub. I was thinking of other cars where they combine the two. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/63866-when-is-it-%E2%80%9Ctoo-far-gone%E2%80%9C-to-be-worth-resorting/#findComment-597519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 20, 20204 yr comment_597603 On 4/18/2020 at 6:54 PM, Zed Head said: He asked if they were still good. They probably are. So, not really a dumb question. There are still a few NAPA stores and small shops around that have a guy that knows how to run the rotor turning machine. The way they do it allows you to keep the bearing races in. (Edit - since the rotor is separate bearings don't come into play, my mistake). Why waste money if you don't have to? Take 'em off, drop 'em off, pick them up in a couple of hours, bolt 'em right back on. It's old school. And, who knows what "new" means these days? That's a fair point, i was talking about this with my uncle yesterday and he was saying that same thing, that you could go into an auto-parts store and have the people there turn the rotors in the shop for you. Makes sense if you are dishing out the money for higher quality rotors. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/63866-when-is-it-%E2%80%9Ctoo-far-gone%E2%80%9C-to-be-worth-resorting/#findComment-597603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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