Posted April 29, 20204 yr comment_598376 Hi All, Got a fun clicking noise coming from my L24, goes up with engine revs. Just replaced a worn camshaft and rockers trying to solve it, valve lash set cold. Engine is an E31 from an earlier car. The old spark plug lead pull seems to quench it a little. Anyone recognize it? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/63934-e31-engine-tick/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 30, 20204 yr Author comment_598463 Pulled the valvetrain apart, are these wear patterns bad news? Edited April 30, 20204 yr by Maritimer Blurry pictures Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/63934-e31-engine-tick/#findComment-598463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 30, 20204 yr comment_598464 How do the cam lobes look? Looks like the PO used the wrong lash pads. Maybe put a new cam in and used the old rocker arms and pads. Tthat's probably where the clicking came from, as the lobes slipped off the ends of the rocker arms. So, yes, bad news. Maybe not terrible though. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/63934-e31-engine-tick/#findComment-598464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 30, 20204 yr Author comment_598466 Those are new ITM rockers, no idea on the old lash pads, only have the cam and a set of rockers that ate another cam. Here’s the ones that look worst for wear. Edited April 30, 20204 yr by Maritimer Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/63934-e31-engine-tick/#findComment-598466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 30, 20204 yr comment_598468 They don't look terrible. Get the right pads and you'll probably be fine. Looks like the valve stem heights are uneven too so you'll probably need to do each one individually. Tedious. The other guys know more, that's what I see though, and it fits your ticking noises. Several lobes are at then end of the wear pad. https://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/PROD/10-2041A Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/63934-e31-engine-tick/#findComment-598468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April 30, 20204 yr Author comment_598471 Sounds half salvageable then. I see that there’s only .150 and .160 at Motorsport and anything above needs an aftermarket retainer. Is there sizes between this? As far as I’m aware my retainers are all OEM 39 minutes ago, Zed Head said: They don't look terrible. Get the right pads and you'll probably be fine. Looks like the valve stem heights are uneven too so you'll probably need to do each one individually. Tedious. The other guys know more, that's what I see though, and it fits your ticking noises. Several lobes are at then end of the wear pad. https://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/PROD/10-2041A Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/63934-e31-engine-tick/#findComment-598471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 1, 20204 yr comment_598534 I had a tick and I added zinc to the oil and it went away. No clue why, but sounds awesome now. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/63934-e31-engine-tick/#findComment-598534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 1, 20204 yr comment_598536 I once had a loud click on my '70 and it turned out to be the water pump (I thought it was perhaps a rod bearing). Turns out the bearings on the water pump were getting bad allowing the shaft to mis-align enough to have the impeller vanes hit the housing, causing the click. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/63934-e31-engine-tick/#findComment-598536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 1, 20204 yr comment_598543 Look at the wear patterns on his rocker arm pads. Most are way off the end. There was a guy a couple of years ago that had a similar pattern, and noise, and you could see wear on the rocker arms, completely off the end of the pads. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/63934-e31-engine-tick/#findComment-598543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 1, 20204 yr Author comment_598555 sure enough, measured my rocker guides and they’re all stock .120 size, albeit a bit worn. Rechecked the wipe and it’s way off on a couple cylinders. Most worn (thinnest) pad on the worst one still produced a bad pattern. I’ll check valve heights off the machined valve cover surface but it looks like I’ve got a trip to the machine shop to schedule? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/63934-e31-engine-tick/#findComment-598555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 1, 20204 yr comment_598561 looks very clean, what kind of oil do you use? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/63934-e31-engine-tick/#findComment-598561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 1, 20204 yr Author comment_598572 VR1 High Zinc Put my oem rockers back in to check their pattern, still not great but it looks like there’s a slight difference between the one and ITM units. Is this a valve stem fix? Can the OEM pads be safely reduced? Edited May 2, 20204 yr by Maritimer Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/63934-e31-engine-tick/#findComment-598572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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