Posted June 11, 20204 yr comment_601009 Hi Guys, so i have been working with my mechanic on my 77 280z, it is automatic. The N47 head was cracked so we found a new rebuilt head and engine giving good compression as well. The CAM was old and had plenty of wear so decided to put a new CAM. New spark plugs off course. Gap set to factory. The problem coming in setting the timing. My mechanic is very skilled but obviously he has not worked on 280z before. He says everything fires up nicely but we are not able to set the timing. He says the distributor had to be fully advanced to set the timing. But it should not be this way. It has to align with first cylinder/stroke etc. But when you do that timing is a bit off. There is a new timing kit as well. I told him to open the valve cover and lets make sure original CAM and new CAM is same. Appreciate some guidance here. We are new to 280z and I am almost there to getting the engine fully operational. Need help with setting the timing ... what do you guys think? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64131-77-280z-timing-problem-need-help/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 11, 20204 yr comment_601011 56 minutes ago, MH77280Z said: He says everything fires up nicely but we are not able to set the timing. He says the distributor had to be fully advanced to set the timing. But it should not be this way. think? What is the timing number with the distributor turned to the limit? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64131-77-280z-timing-problem-need-help/#findComment-601011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 12, 20204 yr Author comment_601048 I am checking and get back...hang on... Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64131-77-280z-timing-problem-need-help/#findComment-601048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 12, 20204 yr comment_601062 My Dad had a hard time with my 280 when I was younger. The firing order was different from what he was used to. Maybe your guy has it off too. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64131-77-280z-timing-problem-need-help/#findComment-601062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 12, 20204 yr Author comment_601064 Is this the firing order for 77 280z? Just confirming with your car!!! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64131-77-280z-timing-problem-need-help/#findComment-601064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 12, 20204 yr comment_601088 5 hours ago, MH77280Z said: Is this the firing order for 77 280z? Just confirming with your car!!! Yes, and the firing order for L series engines as far as I know. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64131-77-280z-timing-problem-need-help/#findComment-601088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 12, 20204 yr Author comment_601091 28 minutes ago, grannyknot said: Yes, and the firing order for L series engines as far as I know. The number #1 position is set how? Is this the position with distributor fully advance? I think not just asking. Edited June 12, 20204 yr by MH77280Z Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64131-77-280z-timing-problem-need-help/#findComment-601091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 13, 20204 yr comment_601097 On 6/11/2020 at 12:58 PM, MH77280Z said: He says everything fires up nicely but we are not able to set the timing. He says the distributor had to be fully advanced to set the timing. But it should not be this way. It has to align with first cylinder/stroke etc. But when you do that timing is a bit off. It's very common for the distributor drive gear to be off one tooth. If he was able to get to the desired advance number on the damper pulley and timing tab then it doesn't really matter. That's why I asked what the number was. It's one of those things that won't hurt anything but isn't "right". Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64131-77-280z-timing-problem-need-help/#findComment-601097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 14, 20204 yr Author comment_601152 Hi guys, so when we got a new N47 head we also got a new Cam. Mine is a 77 280z non turbo. But the guy told me the cam we found was for turbo but there is no difference in the cam. Will turbo cam be ok in a non turbo car? Visually it seems exactly the same? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64131-77-280z-timing-problem-need-help/#findComment-601152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 14, 20204 yr comment_601153 Here's a nice chart on the different cams. Looks like the "M" has the lowest duration. Thanks @240260280 http://www.240260280.com/legacy/techtips/cam/index.htm Edited June 14, 20204 yr by siteunseen Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64131-77-280z-timing-problem-need-help/#findComment-601153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 14, 20204 yr comment_601154 Visually? or verified with some calipers and degree wheel? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64131-77-280z-timing-problem-need-help/#findComment-601154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 14, 20204 yr comment_601155 Good link Site The short answer is the turbo cam is not going to breath as well in a NA engine. the added pressure makes up for lack of valve lift and other small changes Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64131-77-280z-timing-problem-need-help/#findComment-601155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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