Sport Z magazine

[EScanlon]

You're Bad!

I'm sticking to my opinion of the bikini centerfold, I wouldn't object to their having TWO centerfolds one WITH another WITHOUT, if only cause it's the CAR I want to see. Not saying I don't like the cheesecake, just that sometimes the cheesecake can literally hide detail or render the picture unuseable for anything else other than cheesecake.

And I can't agree that cheesecake would make the magazine sell more. As it is, the Z enthusiasts are a small population. Due to the scarcity of good vehicles, and the amount of money it takes to restore one, you have again, another limiting factor on the population. Since you are dealing with an older car, this pretty well defines your audience. Although there are exceptions, you would find that the general reader would be, Male, 35 to 60, Mechanically Inclined, Loves Sports Cars, Enjoys Tinkering, Either Retired or with a Job that allows plenty of $ for a time consuming expensive hobby. He's looking for information and pictures on the car, not another T&A shot. A younger male reader, under 30, and some women too, enjoy and kind of expect the cheesecake shot, but let's face it, those that are interested in Z cars and not the Rice Ready Racers, are few and far between. Cheesecake isn't going to make it sell more, since the target audience is looking at Z cars.

I have given some thought on the other photos, but only cause as much as I'd like the magazine to increase the number and sizes of the photographs, I realize that unless you do something to make the different month's different from one another, they'll quickly become boring and overlooked.

Understand what I'm referring to.

There are few pictures that show the cars when they were NEW. As a result, many of us, who are trying to detail, restore, and improve, our cars, do not have the time or the money to access all the different places you need to go to, before you can find out that the space above the hazard switch on the dash of the 70 had the INDENT but otherwise was NOT a hole. Or that the cover of the choke plate on the 70/71 actually had silver trim on the raised edge going all the way around.

Or that the majority of vehicles that entered the North American market did NOT have the separate Throttle linkage to the right of the choke but here's a photo of what one looks like. Or what the Lateral Parking Light switch to the right of the Rear Defrost looked like on those few rare vehicles that have it.

Yes, I like a little T&A, but when it comes to admiring a really well maintained or restored vehicle, I want the details of the vehicle. Hence, photos, lots and lots of them. From different angles, close ups, wide angle etc etc.

The photos I described are more in line with the comparison that you mention women make. Women DO compare, but not as much about the size of their breasts as we guys think, but rather as to how short other women wear their skirts, or is the shirt unbuttoned below or above the line of the breast, how tight is the fit of their clothing, does it make her look good, and finally, what are other women wearing and how are they wearing it.

Yes there is a lot of interest in physical fitness, but let's be honest, the last time you looked at a picture of a man in skimpy clothing, did you really sit there and compare how big his musculature, etc. was in comparison to yours, OR did you give it a quick glance as to how he looked and how you perceived yourself to look? Women do the same.

But enough on that, what do other readers think? Let's hear from you.

[Doug]

Just like to add another $0.02

I'm 18 this april and my 260 is my first car. ( Pretty sweet huh? Jealous? ) But I do come from a motorsport background, old man has been off road racing and rallying for about a 100 years . Not that I'd ever destroy a Zed by putting a fatass rollcage in it.....

[2ManyZs]

Mike, if you want to look at girls I'd bet we could tell you about some web-sites ( yes, free ones).

You could do like I did and by their calender, and when the year is over cut of the pictures you like the best and frame them. I got one of the calenders before the magazine changed hands, ( yeah, I lost my $20 subscription renewal too) and have a couple of the nicest Z's framed in my room.

IMO let's let them stay the way they are, just keep them in business!! Not like that last one! We can worry about cheesecake later!

[Emerald117]

Lose the Bikini Crap guys, leave that for your 'other' subscriptions, I am a Girl, and I do get sport Z mag and I have no room for impish fantasies in the mag that I get, stick to the topic of Z's, end of story. I am just as much of an avid Z fan as perhaps you are and I have to tell you getting this post with your buxom blonde babe posted just made me ill. Where can I go and not get bombarded with all the sex crap on the net lately anyway?? Surely the last thing I was expecting was conversation about Bikini centerfolds. Grow up.... With LOVE...... :-) Emerald117

[rodd]

Hi Doug

Where in Aus are you. I'm in Torquay.

I havn't been able to find sport z in any newsagents here, so I have described. Are you in a Z club, with some clubs the get bulk mailings to decrease mailing costs.

[ZmeFly]

ya like:D she goes pretty quick too heheheLOL

[ZmeFly]

grrrr my pic wont come up

[Mike]

Originally posted by Emerald117

Lose the Bikini Crap guys, leave that for your 'other' subscriptions, I am a Girl, and I do get sport Z mag and I have no room for impish fantasies in the mag that I get, stick to the topic of Z's, end of story. I am just as much of an avid Z fan as perhaps you are and I have to tell you getting this post with your buxom blonde babe posted just made me ill. Where can I go and not get bombarded with all the sex crap on the net lately anyway?? Surely the last thing I was expecting was conversation about Bikini centerfolds. Grow up.... With LOVE...... :-) Emerald117

Hey now... we're just a bunch of typical guys. If you think it goes away with age (referring to the 'grow up' statement)... you really don't know men all that well.

Just kidding with ya. Yes, the bikini stuff is a little on the dark side of the force, but, it's all in good fun.

[m]

[Mike]

Originally posted by ZmeFly

grrrr my pic wont come up

I see your pic just fine.

[Emerald117]

Hey, ZMeFly, NICE RIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Emer