October 26, 20213 yr comment_630499 Dave, I stumbled over your idea to "gut the original valve" and use it as a manifold. I will follow up with more pictures when it is finished. Best Regards from Norway. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64339-1977-280z-ac-issue-xx-of-yy/?&page=4#findComment-630499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 26, 20213 yr comment_630508 nice work! that would be great if it works out for all those searching for a good expansion valve. Looking forward to progress report. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64339-1977-280z-ac-issue-xx-of-yy/?&page=4#findComment-630508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 23, 20213 yr comment_632088 Hi, The manifold for the new valve is mostly finished, I have not removed the "inboard end" just in case it will need more machining. I will also have to make a steel plate similar to the "flange" on the original valve. This loose plate will enable the manifold to be rotated, to orientate the inlet of the new valve in the desired direction. I decided to make a hose connection so that I can use the manifold also for the flushing of the evap. The first flushing adapter, as shown in the picture in the post above, was made from 40mm Al, which is to small (you can see the O-ring). The new manifold is made from 50mm Al. It is winter now so this project will be on hold until....later. I have ordered an elbow just to line up the inlet to the new valve, not sure if it will fit. The alternative will be to just make a hose from the  connection in front of the Fire Wall to the new valve. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64339-1977-280z-ac-issue-xx-of-yy/?&page=4#findComment-632088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 23, 20213 yr comment_632097 looking good! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64339-1977-280z-ac-issue-xx-of-yy/?&page=4#findComment-632097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 9, 20222 yr comment_640202 Update. Flushed Evaporator with Alkylate gasoline (-for lawn movers etc.), this fluid i mineral and evaporates easily. I don't smoke. Hose inlet connected to R12 inlet on evaporator, hose out in front of Fire Wall (suction). Test fitted all hard ware, did not have to cut the inlet pipe, just loosened the clamp where pipes enter evaporator box and adjusted the pipe by hand. Pictures in the attached pdf. Erling. flushing and parts mockup.pdf Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64339-1977-280z-ac-issue-xx-of-yy/?&page=4#findComment-640202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 27, 20222 yr comment_640909 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64339-1977-280z-ac-issue-xx-of-yy/?&page=4#findComment-640909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 27, 20222 yr comment_640913 wow that is some really nice work you have there! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64339-1977-280z-ac-issue-xx-of-yy/?&page=4#findComment-640913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 20, 20222 yr comment_641672 Done, it worked. I assembled the whole proses in the attached pdf. I need a new condenser, but that is on the outside of the car, not inside the dash. Brgds Erling Søvik, Norway. Flushing and parts mockup_ Final installation and testing.pdf Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64339-1977-280z-ac-issue-xx-of-yy/?&page=4#findComment-641672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 20, 20222 yr comment_641678 nice job, great write up! thanks for sharing!! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64339-1977-280z-ac-issue-xx-of-yy/?&page=4#findComment-641678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 20, 20222 yr Author comment_641683 Very nicely done.  I won’t be able to do this as I don’t have a lathe 😞 perhaps next Father’s Day wish list and the wife agree 😉  as did my stock setup, I manage to just simply retro the r134a fittings.  The condenser and compressor works for a year and last weekend was blowing hot air.  Appeared all Freon escaped.  Pull the vacuum for 40 minutes and seem like there isn’t a y leak anywhere.  Put another 2 cans, (18oz or so) it’s running cool again.  Did put some dye in and even stay soap every connectors.  All seem good.  If any leak, probably in the condenser under the dashboard.  Pain in the behind Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64339-1977-280z-ac-issue-xx-of-yy/?&page=4#findComment-641683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 20, 20222 yr comment_641690 There are only 2 flare connections and the large o-ring that seals the expansion valve inside the dash. They're fairly easy to access and soap since they're right in front of the evaporator. Although not impossible, I would highly doubt a leak on the evaporator itself. My bet would be that your leak is probably the compressor. Another tip about "soaping" joints: It's actually better to test with low pressure. Sometimes high pressure will just blow the leak locator solution away from the joint so quickly that you won't actually see it. In that case it's better to use a more viscous locator solution. In this case just go slowly and make sure the solution envelopes the fitting and you're checking all angles. You can locate leaks in piping with 1/2 PSI. Few people know this but the natural gas piping to a residence comes into the home at 1/2 PSI. We test the natural gas piping to 10 PSI for 30 minutes, but you can see a leak bubbling the leak locator at 1/2 PSI. Edited June 20, 20222 yr by cgsheen1 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64339-1977-280z-ac-issue-xx-of-yy/?&page=4#findComment-641690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 20, 20222 yr Author comment_641691 will try your suggestion. California is getting sizzling. Not to the point of boiling eggs on the asphalt, but getting there. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64339-1977-280z-ac-issue-xx-of-yy/?&page=4#findComment-641691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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