November 9, 20204 yr Author comment_609940 Here's what Innovate says in the user's manual for the gauge: "Using a clock as reference, mount the bung between the 9:00 o’clock and 3:00 o’clock position. Welding the bung in the lower section of the exhaust pipe can result in sensor damage caused by condensation making contact with the sensor’s internal heating element." My interpretation of that is "anywhere along the top half of the tube is OK." That said, I think I would rather have it a little off 12:00 for the surface tension reasons Dutch mentioned. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64668-air-fuel-meter-recommendations/?&page=4#findComment-609940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 24, 20204 yr comment_611045 So, Mr CO, did it ever arrive? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64668-air-fuel-meter-recommendations/?&page=4#findComment-611045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 25, 20204 yr Author comment_611079 It's sooooooo pretty.... Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64668-air-fuel-meter-recommendations/?&page=4#findComment-611079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 25, 20204 yr comment_611084 Prepare to become a geek CO! ;) Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64668-air-fuel-meter-recommendations/?&page=4#findComment-611084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 25, 20204 yr comment_611085 Prepare to become a geek CO! ;) Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64668-air-fuel-meter-recommendations/?&page=4#findComment-611085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 25, 20204 yr Author comment_611101 Wait... You're saying I'm not already a geek? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64668-air-fuel-meter-recommendations/?&page=4#findComment-611101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 25, 20204 yr comment_611110 Wait... You're saying I'm not already a geek? An analogue geek in a digital world! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64668-air-fuel-meter-recommendations/?&page=4#findComment-611110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 26, 20204 yr Author comment_611171 Haha!! Guilty as charged! So I'll have to install some data collection software somewhere to hook up to the gauge. It certainly won't be to my phone... Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64668-air-fuel-meter-recommendations/?&page=4#findComment-611171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 26, 20204 yr Author comment_611173 On 11/8/2020 at 11:00 AM, Jeff Berk said: If you are talking about the heating element on O2 sensors, that's there just to get them up to operating temperature (~600F http://www.autotap.com/techlibrary/understanding_oxygen_sensors.asp). After a few minutes, I don't think you don't need it. @Jeff Berk I did a little digging into the heating element and how it's used. My (admittedly limited) research indicates that you are correct if you're talking about the older O2 sensors which would run the heating element all the time, but the new ones are monitored and modulated by the engine computer. In order to achieve A/F sensor accuracy, they want the sensor to stay at a constant temperature at all time, so they modulate the power sent to the heater to keep the temp constant. Older sensors didn't need that level of control, they just need to be really hot, but the newer wide band sensors need to stay at a constant temp. Here's the best article I could find about the whole thing: https://www.autoserviceprofessional.com/articles/1097-oxygen-sensor-heaters-how-do-you-know-if-that-heater-fault-code-is-real Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64668-air-fuel-meter-recommendations/?&page=4#findComment-611173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 26, 20204 yr comment_611174 Captain Looks like the O2 sensor is more complicated than I thought. Sorry to send you on a goose chase (turkey chase?) Jeff Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64668-air-fuel-meter-recommendations/?&page=4#findComment-611174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 26, 20204 yr Author comment_611178 No, no, no... No apologies necessary! I ended up with the benefit of knowledge! The scary part now is I'm thinking "I could program up a little microcontroller to do that easy!" Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64668-air-fuel-meter-recommendations/?&page=4#findComment-611178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 28, 20204 yr comment_611321 Which microcontroller were you planning to use? I got a few ESP8266 that were intended for a different project. They have built-in wifi modules, perhaps they can be used like a relay to forward the data to a computer. After seeing this thread earlier in the week I ordered an AEM wideband AFM, as I had the exhaust off the car. looks like I need to mess with my floats a bit. 😬 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/64668-air-fuel-meter-recommendations/?&page=4#findComment-611321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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