Z's on BAT and other places collection

[Zed Head]

$17,000 for the 83 ZX Turbo hooner, whoosh, whoosh.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-datsun-280zx-turbo-12/

[DatsunZGuy]

Should bring strong money.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-datsun-240z-152/

[Zed Head]

Too shiny!

That's the third silver Z up for sale.  I'm betting on originality for big money.

[Zed Head]

The yellow arrows confuse me!  I'm just a primitive cave man...

[grannyknot]

9 hours ago, DatsunZGuy said:

Should bring strong money.

Very nice shape.  Choke cables coming from the passenger side?

 

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[S30Driver]

I like it.   Easy to correct the non stock flaws,  except for the carbs maybe.  A mornings work for Zup,

He will be watching this one.

Hopefully the deck emblem is just glued on.

[S30Driver]

7 minutes ago, grannyknot said:

Very nice shape.  Choke cables coming from the passenger side?
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For a 73, that is correct for the choke cables.

[Racer X]

10 hours ago, Zed Head said:

The yellow arrows confuse me!  I'm just a primitive cave man...

Reminds me of a freeway interchange near Dallas/Fort Worth.

[CanTechZ]

I notice two plugs on the drivers side door panel where a grab handle would be. I know that earlier cars only have a grab handle on the passenger side and no holes or plugs on the drivers side. Is this another '73 240Z thing?

 

In the walk around video the selling dealer claims "Interior100% original"

[Zed Head]

The BAT crowd seems oddly excited about it, but most of them are just talkers/value pumpers/fans.  I think the shine on the paint is from a clear coat.  That's what clear coats are for, but Z's did not have them back then.

Here's the silver 71 for comparison.  The shiny 73 is already $1000 more.  You never know until the last two minutes though.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-datsun-240z-164/

[Carl Beck]

21 minutes ago, Zed Head said:

The BAT crowd seems oddly excited about it, but most of them are just talkers/value pumpers/fans.  I think the shine on the paint is from a clear coat.  That's what clear coats are for, but Z's did not have them back then.

Here's the silver 71 for comparison.  The shiny 73 is already $1000 more.  You never know until the last two minutes though.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-datsun-240z-164/

 

As far as  I know - all metallic automotive paints in the late 60's and early 70's were clear coated.(I worked for Datsun/BMW and VW in the early 70's).  My 1970 Silver 240Z was clear coated from the factory. The reason was that some of the metal flakes mixed with the paint being sprayed - did wind up at or near the surface skin coat of the paint. Any polishing/waxing or compounding at that point would have resulted in the metal flakes sticking above the surface.  So metallic paints on the 240Z were clear coated.   

FWIW

Carl

[Zed Head]

I can't find anything definitive about what Datsun/Nissan was doing but my understanding was that clear coats weren't used in high volume until the 80's and mostly on high end cars.  I remember guys getting clear coats on their hot rods in the late 70's but that was a custom paint job. 

This article suggests that the late 70's/80's was when they really came in to high usage.

https://www.paint.org/coatingstech-magazine/articles/brief-history-automotive-coatings-technology/

"As previously discussed, thermoplastic acrylic lacquer automotive coatings, given their excellent appearance, were the major automotive topcoat used in the 1950-70s. However, these lacquer topcoats did have one significant drawback: they had weak exterior durability. After about one to two years’ exposure, the coatings would begin to degrade, and aggressive waxing was needed to “bring back the shine” of these systems. By the 1980s, the automotive manufacturers were requesting better durability for automotive topcoats, as consumers were now expecting their cars to last at least five years, and they wanted the car to continue to look like it did when they first saw it in the showroom. "

 

This Toyota page shows a clear on a solid as a one step/one bake process in 1973 but no clear top coat again until 1990.

https://www.toyota-global.com/company/history_of_toyota/75years/data/automotive_business/products_technology/technology_development/materials/painting/index.html