Z's on BAT and other places collection

[26th-Z]

The hand throttle is not original by any stretch of the imagination.  And it's not a low mileage car.

[Terrapin Z]

Those air horns though.......🤣 😂

[Patcon]

4 hours ago, 26th-Z said:

The hand throttle is not original by any stretch of the imagination.  And it's not a low mileage car.

Weren't they removed at the dealers on import to the US?

[zspert]

I saw 1 or 2 very early 1970 production date cars with hand throttles while working as a mechanic at a Datsun dealer in 1971. We weren't told to remove hand throttles but given my experience with such "passed down from the top' messaging at that time I'm confident application, If indeed official, wasn't consistent.

I apprenticed at a foreign car shop in 1969/70 and saw 1 or 2 Volvo's? & MB with hand throttles. 

 

[psdenno]

7 minutes ago, zspert said:

I apprenticed at a foreign car shop in 1969/70 and saw 1 or 2 Volvo's? & MB with hand throttles. 

 

My 1970 Porsche 914-6 has a hand throttle.  Handy for warming the engine, less handy as cruise control.

[Patcon]

17 minutes ago, zspert said:

I saw 1 or 2 very early 1970 production date cars with hand throttles while working as a mechanic at a Datsun dealer in 1971. We weren't told to remove hand throttles but given my experience with such "passed down from the top' messaging at that time I'm confident application, If indeed official, wasn't consistent.

I apprenticed at a foreign car shop in 1969/70 and saw 1 or 2 Volvo's? & MB with hand throttles. 

 

That was my thought, that it's possible it slipped through or was somebody connected to a dealership and didn't have it removed...

[Carl Beck]

2 hours ago, Patcon said:

Weren't they removed at the dealers on import to the US?

Several very early (ie 69 production mostly) 240Z's arrived with the Hand Throttles, once the legal issue was realized - they were disabled at Nissan's Port Facilities prior to delivery to the Dealers. The Dealers were also notified and instructed to disable or remove them prior to sale.  It was against the law to Sell a new car with a hand throttle in most States - - but not against the law for a private owner to have on their car.   Lots of owners ordered the parts over the Datsun Part Counter at the Dealerships and installed them themselves.   None ever came from the factory to the US on any Series II 1971 240Z's.  The one installed on this Z does have the early style Choke/Throttle knob's. 

[26th-Z]

The discussion about hand throttles:  I did a search / topics "hand throttle" and I also did a search / topics "hand throttle delete".  Happy reading

 

Long thread but a couple of interesting comments

 

Great thread

 

[xs10shl]

18 hours ago, Terrapin Z said:

Those air horns though.......🤣 😂

Some factory rally s30s utilized air horns in place of (or on addition to?) stock horns, so there is a teeny-tiny precedent.  Probably unlikely that the owner installed them for that reason, but the next owner has that "out" to leave them on. 😄

[DC871F]

8 minutes ago, xs10shl said:

Some factory rally s30s utilized air horns in place of (or on addition to?) stock horns, so there is a teeny-tiny precedent.  Probably unlikely that the owner installed them for that reason, but the next owner has that "out" to leave them on. 😄

What kind of horns did the rally cars use that made the oscillating two tone sound?

[Carl Beck]

1 hour ago, xs10shl said:

Some factory rally s30s utilized air horns in place of (or on addition to?) stock horns, so there is a teeny-tiny precedent.  Probably unlikely that the owner installed them for that reason, but the next owner has that "out" to leave them on. 😄

Driving a 240Z today surrounded by gigantic SUV’s and Pickup’s,  all too often driven by distracted drivers - I’m beginning to think Automotive Air Horns or even Train Horns are a good idea. 

[jfa.series1]

23 minutes ago, Carl Beck said:

Driving a 240Z today surrounded by gigantic SUV’s and Pickup’s,  all too often driven by distracted drivers - I’m beginning to think Automotive Air Horns or even Train Horns are a good idea. 

I've had a set of dual-trumpet FIAMM air horns on my car for over 45 years. Not needed very often but get the job done when required! The trumpets are installed on the front side of the radiator support to get that sound right out front.