Z's on BAT and other places collection

[26th-Z]

Interesting score on the silver '71 restored car today.  https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-datsun-240z-209/

In the last three years, six cars have sold at or over $100,000.  Two more did not sell with bids at or over $100,000.  In the previous four years, no cars sold for the $100,000 mark.  Three high priced cars had provenance, 2 Vintage Zs and the Franklin Mint car, one supposed low-mileage-all-original car went for an astronomical price while another low mileage example did not sell even though it was in the same range average as all the rest.  I'm glad and surprised to see this restored example do so well.  It was very nicely done.

[DC871F]

1 hour ago, 26th-Z said:

Interesting score on the silver '71 restored car today.  https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-datsun-240z-209/

In the last three years, six cars have sold at or over $100,000.  Two more did not sell with bids at or over $100,000.  In the previous four years, no cars sold for the $100,000 mark.  Three high priced cars had provenance, 2 Vintage Zs and the Franklin Mint car, one supposed low-mileage-all-original car went for an astronomical price while another low mileage example did not sell even though it was in the same range average as all the rest.  I'm glad and surprised to see this restored example do so well.  It was very nicely done.

What did you think of the silver 71 that was original at 98K and didnt make reserve? I thought that this would have been right on point.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-datsun-240z-205/

[CW240Z72]

1 hour ago, DC871F said:

Congratulations! I hope it went for something close to what you were expecting.

Thanks DC871F & Patcon. I was very happy with the end result today. Do I think it had more room to grow? You bet, but I don't build these cars to pay for the roof over my head. It's going to a great home and I'll be able to build up the next one

[inline6]

2 hours ago, CW240Z72 said:

Thanks DC871F & Patcon. I was very happy with the end result today. Do I think it had more room to grow? You bet, but I don't build these cars to pay for the roof over my head. It's going to a great home and I'll be able to build up the next one

I am happy for you - job well done.  It is nice to see hard work, and wisdom with regard to hiring a photographer, editing the video, etc. pay off for you.  

[gundee]

This one just sold for over $100K. Nice.

https://www.hemmings.com/auction/1971-datsun-240z-883659?fbclid=IwAR0hVKsk24dcp2jaHbCDk8kxKv30YbKtFpGs6G3xG51f1rD7aInJSHVmVfE

[mailnome]

This one just sold for over $100K. Nice.
https://www.hemmings.com/auction/1971-datsun-240z-883659?fbclid=IwAR0hVKsk24dcp2jaHbCDk8kxKv30YbKtFpGs6G3xG51f1rD7aInJSHVmVfE

I thought it odd what they said about the paint. I guess it’s possible, but unusual. No?

“The seller says the Racing Green paint is original, though he notes “a few touch-ups” done after it had been stored under covers for 40 years. Seller describes that the original paint was wet sanded, touched up, clear coated, and buffed out.”


If it’s original paint, why not just touch up and buff out? I’d be worried about the clear coat pealing later on if that is what they did.

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[Racer X]

15 hours ago, mailnome said:

I thought it odd what they said about the paint. I guess it’s possible, but unusual. No?

“The seller says the Racing Green paint is original, though he notes “a few touch-ups” done after it had been stored under covers for 40 years. Seller describes that the original paint was wet sanded, touched up, clear coated, and buffed out.”


If it’s original paint, why not just touch up and buff out? I’d be worried about the clear coat pealing later on if that is what they did.

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For sure.

The original finish was acrylic enamel, which can be buffed to the original glossy luster. 
 

Just be careful to not buff through it.

 

[Zpenman]

16 hours ago, mailnome said:

If it’s original paint, why not just touch up and buff out? I’d be worried about the clear coat pealing later on if that is what they did.

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I agree. The original paint should have been single-stage, which can be buffed out to provide its original luster. The sheen provided by the single-stage paint, however, can't match that of modern paints with a clear coat. I prefer the original sheen but these days the preference seems to be the shinier the better!

[Carl Beck]

2 hours ago, Racer X said:

For sure.

The original finish was acrylic enamel, which can be buffed to the original glossy luster. 
 

Just be careful to not buff through it.

 

The original paint was "Amino Alkyd Enamel” (oil based) - the newer Acrylics do not adhere / bond well to it and shouldn’t be used over it.  AIR the only acrylic enamel used in 1970 was on the Metallic Silver.

[inline6]

On 1/24/2022 at 6:27 PM, gundee said:

This one just sold for over $100K. Nice.

https://www.hemmings.com/auction/1971-datsun-240z-883659?fbclid=IwAR0hVKsk24dcp2jaHbCDk8kxKv30YbKtFpGs6G3xG51f1rD7aInJSHVmVfE

Yikes 🥶.  That car looks to have had an extensive going over, and the quality doesn't seem to be worthy of the price to me.  But what do I know?    

[siteunseen]

No clear vin# I could find and a black engine bay? Hemmings maybe stretching the true price on this one.

Whups! I made a mistake I think? I can see green but not normal for that low mile car. Sorry...

 

Edited January 26, 2022 by siteunseen

[Carl Beck]

6 hours ago, inline6 said:

Yikes 🥶.  That car looks to have had an extensive going over, and the quality doesn't seem to be worthy of the price to me.  But what do I know?    

You know enough to tell the difference between a $55K example and a $100K example - the quality doesn't seem to be worthy of the price to me either.