Z's on BAT and other places collection

[26th-Z]

If you go to the search header on the BaT site and type in "Datsun 240Z", you will see a chart of sales values for the past three years.  It's pretty easy to see what the average sales values are; the highs, the lows.  That's a good guide.  BaT prices are usually high compared to eBay or Craigslist.

[BoldUlysses]

1 hour ago, Zed Head said:

Here's a 72 that's ending today.  1037 pictures.  #319 shows the engine stamping.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-datsun-240z-225/

Reserve not met at $45K.  Holy smokes.

[bluez]

1 hour ago, BoldUlysses said:

Reserve not met at $45K.  Holy smokes.

With all the great work done on the restoration, there were several small misses. The interior work on the seats, door panels, shock towers, etc was not very good. Under hood braided lines should have been sourced. Details held it back, should have gotten close to 60k.

[Carl Beck]

1 hour ago, bluez said:

With all the great work done on the restoration, there were several small misses. The interior work on the seats, door panels, shock towers, etc was not very good. Under hood braided lines should have been sourced. Details held it back, should have gotten close to 60k.

I applaud the seller for full disclosure - but it also may have cost him a sale.

First - the body he started with was way to far gone for that shop to handle. Lots and lots of rust damage everywhere, but few pictures showing how it was “all” addressed. My fear would have been a lot of bondo filling small holes everywhere.

 

Second the killer was the quality of the metal work done on the floor pan replacement.  Pictures 812, 813, 815…  That shop really did not know what they were doing,  I wouldn’t touch that car...

Edited July 12, 2022 by Carl Beck

[26th-Z]

I didn't see those pictures!  I actually quit looking at the car when I saw the seats and vinyl work.  Now that I'm looking at "full disclosure", I can understand.  That guy was upside down in the car.  That's why he wanted so much for it.  The disclosure didn't kill the sale.  He did.  He should have taken the money and run.

[Zed Head]

This was after the sale ended.  Garf was high bidder.

[bluez]

I missed those pics as well, so much for a quality restoration. Those welds are horrible. As previously mentioned one can only wonder what other hidden surprises exist.

[26th-Z]

I just did some math; the average bidding / selling price for a Datsun 240Z in the last six months according to BaT is $36,118.

[Racer X]

19 hours ago, 26th-Z said:

I just did some math; the average bidding / selling price for a Datsun 240Z in the last six months according to BaT is $36,118.

Hagerty has been pestering me lately to increase the insured values of the Zs I have insured with them. I have the brown 72, and the red 71 (the race car) insured for $25,000 each.

Hagerty is suggesting I go to $35,000 each.

[Yarb]

Check out American Modern. Mine is in the restoration stages and I insured it for 30k. $258 year. You can raise or lower it at any time. $100 deductible 

[Carl Beck]

1 hour ago, Racer X said:

Hagerty has been pestering me lately to increase the insured values of the Zs I have insured with them. I have the brown 72, and the red 71 (the race car) insured for $25,000 each.

Hagerty is suggesting I go to $35,000 each.

We have come a long way since 1997 - when we had to plead with Classic Car insurance speciality carriers for coverage, when the Hagerty was the only one to respond.  To now, with them suggesting we increase the agreed values of our Z’s.

 

I think you want to insure against whatever loss you can’t afford to take. You want the coverage limit high enough that your Z would be replaced or repaired rather than Totaled. Much of that depends on the current condition of the Z’s.   It would seem that $35K would a minimum number. 

[Racer X]

On 7/12/2022 at 4:09 PM, Carl Beck said:

I applaud the seller for full disclosure - but it also may have cost him a sale.

First - the body he started with was way to far gone for that shop to handle. Lots and lots of rust damage everywhere, but few pictures showing how it was “all” addressed. My fear would have been a lot of bondo filling small holes everywhere.

 

Second the killer was the quality of the metal work done on the floor pan replacement.  Pictures 812, 813, 815…  That shop really did not know what they were doing,  I wouldn’t touch that car...

I just had another, closer look at the pictures. Besides the bodywork, I see he shows the rear brakes being converted to discs, then fully restored to OEM later. And while he has the hub apart he doesn't replace what look like original bearings.

The engine is shown disassembled, but not machined. There are pictures of piston rings in a dirty cylinder, like one would do in a clean cylinder, after machine work is finished, to check end gaps.

Similarly, the differential is shown opened, but not disassembled, cleaned, inspected, and reassembled with new bearings.

Suspension and other bits look to have been cleaned, wire wheeled, and painted. Sure, better than nothing, but no substitute for media blasting.

Clearly not a $45,000 car.