Z's on BAT and other places collection

[CanTechZ]

1 hour ago, Terrapin Z said:

OfferUp is not a bidding site, It is more like Craiglist. It is supposed to hook you up with more local buyers. The have a seller reputation thing as well. 

One of their contact options is to "make an offer" to the seller. 

Funny you mentioned Craigslist, I was literally just on there just before reading your post and found this,

https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/d/marysville-1970-datsun-240z/7653825977.html

 

[DC871F]

2 hours ago, CanTechZ said:

Funny you mentioned Craigslist, I was literally just on there just before reading your post and found this,

https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/d/marysville-1970-datsun-240z/7653825977.html

 

I guess if you're not reasonable, he'll unload a bunch of sarcastic remarks your way?

[Terrapin Z]

7 hours ago, DC871F said:

I guess if you're not reasonable, he'll unload a bunch of sarcastic remarks your way?

I know what I got....

 

[bartsscooterservice]

On 8/18/2023 at 1:35 AM, 26th-Z said:

Has anyone mentioned this?  https://www.ebay.com/itm/134685619600

VIN HLS30-00229

 

pretty cool, choke knob and auto throttle and cig lighter knob are from a later year though

[HS30-H]

On 8/17/2023 at 2:56 PM, HS30-H said:

Not seeing much talk about the Mecum sale of 'The Mike and Debbie Rogers Datsun Collection' in Monterey over the next couple of days.

I hope anyone who bids on the 1970 Nissan Fairlady Z432 (PS30-00105) is well informed regarding its history and its current specification/parts content, as there are a number of inaccuracies in Mecum's listing and in their description of the car.

https://www.mecum.com/lots/1088316/1970-nissan-fairlady-z432/

A couple of people have contacted me to ask some more about the car. One question was, "...is it really a 1969-built car?", because the Mecum auction description is calling 'PS30-00105' a "1969 Datsun Fairlady Z432."

Of course, it's not a 'Datsun' (it's a Nissan...) and it wasn't built in 1969 either. 'PS30' prefixed cars built in 1969 ended with 'PS30-00072'  and 1970 production started with 'PS30-00073'. Clearly 'PS30-00105' is an early 1970 build date car, not 1969. 

So, another little elephant trap for an unwary buyer to fall into.

[xs10shl]

I personally feel it's odd that Mecum chose to highlight this Z432 over some of the other cars from the collection. IMHO, there are some real gems on offer, which deserve the spotlight.

[Zed Head]

1 hour ago, xs10shl said:

I personally feel it's odd that Mecum chose to highlight this Z432 over some of the other cars from the collection. IMHO, there are some real gems on offer, which deserve the spotlight.

 

Edit - I searched "240Z" on the Mecum site and it brought up a bunch.  But the site has reset somehow and now just brings up other stuff.  Put 240Z in the search box.

https://www.mecum.com/auctions/monterey-2023/lots/?wp_posts_lot_feature_sort_asc[configure][filters]=&wp_posts_lot_feature_sort_asc[refinementList][taxonomies.auction_tax.name][0]=Monterey 2023|1692230400|1692403200&wp_posts_lot_feature_sort_asc[query]=240z&wp_posts_lot_feature_sort_asc[sortBy]=wp_posts_lot_sort_order_asc

Edited August 19, 2023 by Zed Head

[HS30-H]

29 minutes ago, Zed Head said:

 

Edit - I searched "240Z" on the Mecum site and it brought up a bunch.  But the site has reset somehow and now just brings up other stuff.  Put 240Z in the search box.

https://www.mecum.com/auctions/monterey-2023/lots/?wp_posts_lot_feature_sort_asc[configure][filters]=&wp_posts_lot_feature_sort_asc[refinementList][taxonomies.auction_tax.name][0]=Monterey 2023|1692230400|1692403200&wp_posts_lot_feature_sort_asc[query]=240z&wp_posts_lot_feature_sort_asc[sortBy]=wp_posts_lot_sort_order_asc

It's the 'The Mike and Debbie Rogers Datsun Collection' that you need to search for:

https://www.mecum.com/auctions/monterey-2023/lots/?wp_posts_lot_feature_sort_asc[configure][filters]=&wp_posts_lot_feature_sort_asc[refinementList][taxonomies.auction_tax.name][0]=Monterey 2023|1692230400|1692403200&wp_posts_lot_feature_sort_asc[refinementList][taxonomies.collection_tax.name][0]=The Mike and Debbie Rogers Datsun Collection|0|0&wp_posts_lot_feature_sort_asc[sortBy]=wp_posts_lot_sort_order_asc

It's not *just* 240Zs.

 

[HS30-H]

1 hour ago, xs10shl said:

I personally feel it's odd that Mecum chose to highlight this Z432 over some of the other cars from the collection. IMHO, there are some real gems on offer, which deserve the spotlight.

I get the impression that the vendor thinks the 432 is somehow the coolest and most collectable car in his Z-specific 'portfolio', and has brought Mecum with him on that. Kind of the blind leading the blind in that respect.

An early 432 in good, original and un-monkeyed-with condition would indeed be the Creme De La Kremlin in such a collection, but this particular 432 has had a very bumpy ride through life and I don't see it as being worth anywhere near the lower estimate (325k USD?). It doesn't even live up to its auction description, let alone anything else.

It's a nice enough car, but it's a long way from what they are saying it is.       

[HS30-H]

Just seen a post which says that 'PS30-00105' was sold for 270k USD at the mecum sale.

Wow. I wonder if the new owner knows what he's got (and what he hasn't....)?

[SpeedRoo]

I think most people are missing the point, auctions are about getting the highest amount possible for the item on offer. They don't care whether they educate the public or not, it's all about the sale. I've seen dogs get sold for ridiculous amounts at auction due to the excitement and euphoria in the room. If they can find a buyer for what they are expecting it's worth then good luck to them., if not it will pop up elsewhere for sale. The armchair experts love to complain and point out why it shouldn't achieve reserve, at the end of the day no one really listens or even hears them and the car sells. The next owner may chose to have it restored correctly but that doesn't matter at the auction. The white 1969 240Z from the same collection https://www.mecum.com/lots/1088318/1969-datsun-240z/ also has a very high estimate, be interesting to see if it sells. 

 

[hiyabrad]

18 minutes ago, HS30-H said:

I get the impression that the vendor thinks the 432 is somehow the coolest and most collectable car in his Z-specific 'portfolio', and has brought Mecum with him on that. Kind of the blind leading the blind in that respect.

An early 432 in good, original and un-monkeyed-with condition would indeed be the Creme De La Kremlin in such a collection, but this particular 432 has had a very bumpy ride through life and I don't see it as being worth anywhere near the lower estimate (325k USD?). It doesn't even live up to its auction description, let alone anything else.

It's a nice enough car, but it's a long way from what they are saying it is.       

SOLD for $270,000